2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD - Page 178

RallySS · 06-05-2012, 03:42 PM

You know, with all the talk of a Z/28 option, maybe the ZL1 is the option for now, and they are going to come out with another option that will have the LS9 or derivative based very similar to the upcoming ZR1, possibly with a calling for direct injection. All in high hopes, but you can't fault me for wishing...

Rlgrom · 06-05-2012, 03:46 PM

95 rwhp is not just an "edge" Wow!

stikSS · 06-05-2012, 03:50 PM

Again let's consider all the options... the shelby basically has Cold air and headers from the factory.. so it can take in and exhaust a lot better as well... either way the numbers are really good.

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LOWDOWN · 06-05-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

SRA vs IRS, carbon 1-piece driveshaft, lighter wheels/tires, and possibly some lighter weight drivetrain components not mentioned.

Seems as though the 500 is peaking @ about 65-6600 rpm...which means the "8-second over-rev" function is at play on the dyno...which wouldn't be at play at all times, otherwise.

VADER SS L99 · 06-05-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

I just heard they ran a c6z against a 13 Shelby from 70-180mph and the Shelby was ahead by a little more than a half a car!! That is insane!! I would have predicted the Shelby slightly pulling at lower speed but never would have thought it would hold of a Z up to 180. C6Z's are BEASTS from 70 rolls.

Also heard the Z had a cat back. Really isnt worth mentioning though.

What RPM would a ZO6 be at in 2nd gear doing 70mph becuase it might not be at the sweet spot of the ZO6's motor vs the GT500 which is going to make torque and boost just about everywhere.

2010SS2SS · 06-05-2012, 04:23 PM

95 RWHP is a BIG advantage but does the fact that theres less drivetrain loss mean that it can hook up to out perform the lower HP car?
I wanna see the race!!

72MachOne99GT · 06-05-2012, 04:23 PM

I think he might be suggesting the certification numbers never made it to the over rev area, but I could be wrong.

And I haven't tried it, but I'm thinking the car keeps you out of the over rev area until to a specified level of warm up.

VADER SS L99 · 06-05-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

Both were at 4k in 3rd gear. They tried 2nd but both had traction issues. Z jumped ahead in 2nd and Shelby started reeling after the gear change.

is this on you tube? I would be very surprised by this especially once the ZO6 gets to over 120mph

8cd03gro · 06-05-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Seems as though the 500 is peaking @ about 65-6600 rpm...which means the "8-second over-rev" function is at play on the dyno...which wouldn't be at play at all times, otherwise.

Possibly. Even so, at 6k rpm it's putting down just a hair under 600rwhp. I can't imagine a scenario where you would be above 6250rpm for 8 consecutive seconds without making a top speed run though. In any race the over-rev feature is going to be in play.

VADER SS L99 · 06-05-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

Nope. They had a go pro but the battery died. They will be doing it again with footage.

Hope the ZO6 gets the driver mod and rings it out to 7k with some power shifting.

GEN-IV · 06-05-2012, 04:34 PM

We are living in the best of times!

*mlee* · 06-05-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

I just heard they ran a c6z against a 13 Shelby from 70-180mph and the Shelby was ahead by a little more than a half a car!! That is insane!! I would have predicted the Shelby slightly pulling at lower speed but never would have thought it would hold of a Z up to 180. C6Z's are BEASTS from 70 rolls.

Also heard the Z had a cat back. Really isnt worth mentioning though.

Nice to see you back tonight w/ more info.. Good stuff man.

29er · 06-05-2012, 04:45 PM

the shelby has a much better exhaust sound too.it sounds like a racecar!!
when on the dyno you see it wanted to jump over the wheel chocks! lots of power..

i would have like to see a ZL1, with a straight diff like the shelby has, no irs..maybe there's some gain there??
i'm impressed.

SUX2BU · 06-05-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stikSS

Again let's consider all the options... the shelby basically has Cold air and headers from the factory.. so it can take in and exhaust a lot better as well... either way the numbers are really good.

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Sounds like Ford knows what they are doing AND no gas guzzler tax! You paying attention Chevy?

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the shelby has a much better exhaust sound too.it sounds like a racecar!!
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RallySS Drives: 2011 Rally Yellow RS/2SS Vert M6 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Saucier, MS Posts: 623	You know, with all the talk of a Z/28 option, maybe the ZL1 is the option for now, and they are going to come out with another option that will have the LS9 or derivative based very similar to the upcoming ZR1, possibly with a calling for direct injection. All in high hopes, but you can't fault me for wishing... __________________ If you expect to score points by whining, join a European soccer team.

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2010SS2SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 2SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cypress, texas Posts: 1,302	95 RWHP is a BIG advantage but does the fact that theres less drivetrain loss mean that it can hook up to out perform the lower HP car? I wanna see the race!!

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29er Drives: 14 1LE Garage King Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MTL Posts: 1,519 View My Garage	the shelby has a much better exhaust sound too.it sounds like a racecar!! when on the dyno you see it wanted to jump over the wheel chocks! lots of power.. i would have like to see a ZL1, with a straight diff like the shelby has, no irs..maybe there's some gain there?? i'm impressed.

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