12-30-2011, 01:54 AM | #197 | |
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"The production car has FAT side mirrors" "The headlights look NOTHING like the concept!!" "The engine's going to be the 367hp 6.0L out of the G8" "The SS won't be cheaper than $35,000. My 4th gen SS cost me 34k!!!" "It's going to be as tall as a G8" "V6 will be 250hp out of the Impala" "The Car lost all its body lines!!" "It's going to have 21" wheels" .....among others....... |
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12-30-2011, 09:25 AM | #198 |
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Looking forward to seeing the weight reduction!
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12-30-2011, 11:05 PM | #199 |
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+1! To quote Carly Simon, these are the good old days! Well, at least the second round of them! :-)
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12-30-2011, 11:24 PM | #200 | ||
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12-31-2011, 07:51 AM | #202 |
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I dont know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but what this tells me is that the fifth gen has a few years left before the re-vamp. so with a three years remaining on what is generally a four year run, GM is likely to have something up their sleeve in the form of further development on the current platform. Maybe something in the form of the elusive Z/28!?
Lets go GM!
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If GM has the new Gen 5 V8 ready sooner than the planned release of the new Camaro, will they go ahead and start using it in the current lineup to get the benefits of the more efficient engine? I would hope so but don't know what their normal policy is.
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12-31-2011, 04:34 PM | #204 |
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Typically when they replace an old engine, they'll put the new one into everything within about a year. They don't wait years for the next redesign of the car(s) they use them in. The sooner they use them, the quicker the payback time is, and the simpler their logistics become.
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01-01-2012, 07:50 AM | #207 |
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that is another reason I held out for a 2012, lots of issues have been addressed on this year
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However, I don't think Cadillac would spend the money on an aluminum unibody, especially not for the base models, because one of Cadillac's critical features is offering the same features for less $$$ than competitors. That's why the CTS-V was made for 60k, verus the M5's $80k pricetag. As far as the size...I disagree. Considering the Mustang is purported to be shrinking, the Camaro's existing weight disadvantage vs that car, and the industry trend towards lighter, more fuel-efficient vehicles...I don't think the volume-selling Camaro can afford to be set on a similar, or even larger (CTS is growing) version of Alpha. It would be counter-intuitive to....everything. GM will need to develop a high-output V8 for the likes of the Corvette Z06 and ZR1...if the Camaro is based off of the smaller ATS Alpha architecture, it is conceivable that they could put a compact, high-output Gen V small block into the high-end versions. The cars don't need to be carbon-copies of each other...and in that light, we could see a much more robust drivetrain. |
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Ode to the 4th gen (If I remember right):
-First to bring back 300 HP to the camaro and the muscle car in general -Brought the SS back to camaro -Brought the hurst shifter back to camaro - Introduced the torsen differential to the world - Brought the 6 speed to the muscle car -Dominated the mustang in PERFORMANCE every year it was built - I believe its performance beat the porsche boxter when introduced - Brought the camaro back to road racing (the SLP SS concept was designed specifically for road racing in the SCCA and it won the championship that year). Now I have a ZL1 ordered, but I also race a 4th gen in NASA road racing and very successfully, she is a beast at 3800 lbs but she wins the old fashioned way, fat engine + fat tires. The 4th gen may not be the prettiest but she is a muscle car and she is a camaro. There are a couple of items up there the 5th gen has yet to do... Respect your elders. |
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