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Old 08-18-2014, 01:09 PM   #1961
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Car and Driver reporting ATS-V sedan at LA, CTS-V at Detroit, flagship at New York.
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Old 08-18-2014, 01:53 PM   #1962
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http://special-reports.pickuptrucks....winner-is.html

2015 GMC Sierra 3500HD beats 2014 Ram 3500HD and 2014 Ford F-350.
Why don't they compare 15 to 15 to 15?
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:07 PM   #1963
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Why don't they compare 15 to 15 to 15?
Are the 15 Ram and Ford even available yet? That may be why. MT just compared the 14 ZL1 with the 15 Hellcat Challenger.... It's always done that way when a new model is introduced earlier than its competitors
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:29 PM   #1964
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Why don't they compare 15 to 15 to 15?
'15 Ram isn't out yet. They used a '15 GMC, '15 Ford, and '14 Ram. Close enough, right?
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:00 PM   #1965
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I don't think there are any changes planned for the 2015 Ram HD anyway, are there?
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:33 PM   #1966
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Given the point spread, I don't think you would be a loser in any of these three.
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:41 PM   #1967
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Car and Driver reporting ATS-V sedan at LA, CTS-V at Detroit, flagship at New York.
Im looking forward to the CTS-V reveal but I am in love with the ATS-V. TTV6 in an ATS excites me. Good thing I can't afford it cause a coupe in that new Blue would be very tempting.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:15 PM   #1968
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Buick dealers were shown Cascada Convertible at a meeting last week.
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Old 08-20-2014, 12:13 PM   #1969
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'15 Ram isn't out yet. They used a '15 GMC, '15 Ford, and '14 Ram. Close enough, right?
I would guess. I went by fen's quote of a '14 f350. The '15 has 40 more hp and 80 lbs more tq.

I'm not completely sold on comparison tests. I would have to think whoever buys more advertising that month wins...
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Im looking forward to the CTS-V reveal but I am in love with the ATS-V. TTV6 in an ATS excites me. Good thing I can't afford it cause a coupe in that new Blue would be very tempting.
My only interest in the CTS-V launch is what kind of horsepower estimates they give. I'll take it as basically what a 6th gen ZL1 should make.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:23 AM   #1971
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I have this feeling since they are revaling the new volt at detroit and the ctsv we wont see the next gen camaro there
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:20 AM   #1972
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/buick-cascada.html

Cascada spied testing in US.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:41 AM   #1973
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Fen has there been anymore talk about a DCT from GM?

I remember reading this article about GM filing for patents on a 7 speed DCT.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/27/g...-for-corvette/

I know filing for a patent could mean anything, just wondering if there was anything else about it.
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I would guess. I went by fen's quote of a '14 f350. The '15 has 40 more hp and 80 lbs more tq.

I'm not completely sold on comparison tests. I would have to think whoever buys more advertising that month wins...
The way I see it, its pretty hard to bias performance numbers & still be credible. The subjective parts, sure they might change based on who is paying more that month but that doesn't matter to me because I read what they actually have to say (rather than going 'oooh, it gets a 9/10 on ride but a 4/10 on style'). If their explanation for why they liked it in the article matches what my personal preferences are, great. But if it doesn't, then I'll dismiss it.



Well, that and the fact that if a magazine were to award comparison wins to the automaker that gives them most advertising bucks that month (or day or week or year) then I'm pretty sure the 2 (or 3 or 4 or 5) other companies that lost would very quickly cut their advertising dollars to that publication. And if was one of the losing & found out a 'win' had been bought, I'd raise big stink about it -thereby getting a bunch of free advertising for me and making one of my primary competitors look bad.

Thats my opinion on the matter anyways.
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