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I for one do not see the 2015 GT PP as a fail at all. Lots of big improvements and a much better car than it was. If the comparison was just GT to SS the outcome might have been different. The 1LE is a less mainstream car than the GT PP. The ride is rougher and the tires are awful under 60 degrees until they warm up. Also they wear out really fast. And to replace the tires are more expensive than the GT. Ford should have made the GT PP available with the automatic.
The 1LE is aimed at track rats and some new owners that did not really know what they were buying are disappointed with the car. So for the average buyer the extra capabilities will be accessible to many with the GT PP. Fewer GT PPs will wind up at the track and I would expect Ford will sell more GT PPs than Chevy sells 1LEs. It sounds like Ford will try to compete against the Z/28 with the GT 350. But I would expect it to be a little less serious too. The Z/28 is EXTREME track. But is makes no sense as a daily driver car. That is what makes it so cool. The GT 350 will not compete with the 1LE. I am glad I have the car that was considered more fun to drive. It is big fun, even when losing a drag race to a GT.
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I have a lot of respect for the last gen Mustang and it's faithful. If I were one, I'd wait until 16 or 17 before upgrading and leave the MY15 for the less discriminating buyers. Ford will improve
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HOLD ON THERE , just for the record the GM 3.6 OHC engine is 219.65 cubic inches and makes 320 hp ,that is 1.46 hp per cubic inch. the LS3 OHV is 376 cubic inches and makes 426 hp so it makes 1.13 hp per cubic inch ,the Ford Coyote 5.0 makes 430 hp out of 302 cubic inches ,that is 1.42 hp per cubic inch. I could go on and on but as you can see GM itself knows the deal . Push rod engines are cheaper and easy to build . It's about the $$$$$$$$$$$. Torque at a specific rpm ,the Ferrari wins. It revs higher to make the power but doe's so none the less. Bottom line is a multi valve overhead cam engine is going to make more horsepower per cubic inch. It is more complicated and more expensive ,but will in fact make more HP per cubic inch. Anyone remember the 2.0 Honda S2000 ?
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Not really. I am an engineer, and try not to buy into sales-pitches. I do own a Mazda Miata, a RAM 1500, a Nissan Leaf, a Camaro SS 1LE, a Subaru Outback, and a Kawasaki ZX-10R. I buy whatever makes most sense to me; I'd buy a Mustang if it made more sense than the Camaro (but it didn't).
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Ford PP includes
my son just ordered one of the GT premiums with Performance package and according to Ford it has
Strut tower Brace Larger Radiator Unique Chassis Tuning Upsize rear sway bar Heavy duty Front springs K Brace? Brembo 6 piston front brakes 19x9 front and 19x9.5 wheels with summer tires Unique stability control EPAS and ABs tuning? 3.73 torsen Rear axle. Gauge package This sure sounds like they were going after the 1LE , summer tires etc. Surprised they couldn't pull it off. Jim I saw one though, in black and it was a six but it looks good. I think the best Mustang ever. Interior very nice. I immediately went home and looked at my black 1LE, Nope sorry Ford but my 2013 1LE still looks better.
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What I have is a paid for 1LE ,soon to be a 2016 C7 . My bad 13 to 15 MPG ,and I don't care about MPG.
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