[VenomInside]

[Deki]

Originally Posted by b_williams_82

Ok so maybe I missed it, but has the GT500 released any track times?? I also do believe when I get my 2013 ZL1, I can make it quicker in the 1/4 mile for less than the $6,500 upgrades from Ford! I'm not bashing Ford or the GT500, just stating what I believe is true! Also, have any times been released for base model 13 GT500's yet? Maybe I missed those too!!

If you're just gonna be drag racing the car, the GT500 won't need any of the upgrades. MT got 11.6@127 with the car.

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Why not? Livernois has a package for $5800 and with that package it could get it in the high 10s, might need DR's though

Because all you would need is DR's to get a stock 2013 GT500 into the 10's me thinks, or damn close to it.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Deki

If you're just gonna be drag racing the car, the GT500 won't need any of the upgrades. MT got 11.6@127 with the car.



Because all you would need is DR's to get a stock 2013 GT500 into the 10's me thinks, or damn close to it.

Yes, but you're doing it for a little less money I think that's the point of it was.

ZL1 (w/ livernois package) - 55K + 5800 = 60.8k
GT500(w/ track pack/pp pack) - 55K + 6500 = 61.5

[oortcloud]

Looks are incredibly important for a sports car. In my 4 years in brazil I have never seen a late model mustang. Not one. You can even go to the ford dealership and they don't have them. But guess what? You can walk into the local chevy dealer and buy a 2012 camaro SS from the showroom floor.

Why? Because guys here think they look badass. They don't even understand the power they pack. Very few cars here have high horsepower.

A Brazilian in my condo complex has one and I was talking to him about it. He basically knew it had power but didn't understand some basics. I showed him how to spin the wheels going from 1st to 2nd and then 2nd to 3rd. He was like, "What did you do?!" He had no idea what he had really bought.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by hognutz

yeah and teh ZL1 would beat on that ferrari. For fans seem to forget the ZL1 laps really fast.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/vi...l_raceway.html

The ZL1 smoked it. different day though so it is magazine racing. that is the down side to comparing stuff like this that could have been a fast day but if you wath the lap the car is moving out.

For GT is old ran older generation tires, outdated braking now.

with updates the Ford GT would spank the GT500 easy.

Some guys are putting way too much credit into lap times posted by various drivers on different days. If a faster lap time on that list means the car is definitely faster, then the zl1 is faster on track than the z06 w/ z07 package, the gtr, a 670 sv, and a gt3 rs... we need head to head or a total blow out

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by a_Username

I was only suspicious because that 11.6 @ 125 is dangerously close to the official Ford time according to Autoblog. Of course, the time could be attributed to the fact that MotorTrend always corrects their times for something like this it seems..

oh the danger!!!!

Btw, if youre going to round the gt500's trap speed, it would make more sense to round up. It ran 126mph

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by oortcloud

Looks are incredibly important for a sports car. In my 4 years in brazil I have never seen a late model mustang. Not one. You can even go to the ford dealership and they don't have them. But guess what? You can walk into the local chevy dealer and buy a 2012 camaro SS from the showroom floor.

Why? Because guys here think they look badass. They don't even understand the power they pack. Very few cars here have high horsepower.

A Brazilian in my condo complex has one and I was talking to him about it. He basically knew it had power but didn't understand some basics. I showed him how to spin the wheels going from 1st to 2nd and then 2nd to 3rd. He was like, "What did you do?!" He had no idea what he had really bought.

LMAO you gotta give one of these for that guy

[2010SLVRBULIT]

gee..and to think you spent $60k on a car, only to get bitch slapped..bummer.
..but seriously, me thinks the GT500 is only a performer, not a looker

[gearhead08]

Did the ZL1 vs GT500 thread get deleted?

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by gearhead08

Did the ZL1 vs GT500 thread get deleted?

It got moved to the general section.

[gearhead08]

oh i see thanks

[richtor]

Originally Posted by a_Username

It definitely worked for the drivers of Car and Driver and Road and Track... oh wait.

C and D said the 1/4 should pass in 11.7. Bottom of the 3rd paragraph.

Even so, the quarter-mile should pass in 11.7 seconds. Slam a redline shift from second to third, and you’ll hear the rear tires chirp.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

R and T times were from a writer driving a heat soaked car. Do we really need to pull out the times from bad drivers on the strip?

Originally Posted by hognutz

perfect example of what I am talking about.

hennessy ran 12.5 in an auto car on a different track. ford ran 11.5 in a manual at a different track. 11.8 was the best time at the press day with camera's rolling but 11.5 is it now offical time.

so now accoding to the internet the GT500 is 11.5 car and the ZL1 is a 12.5 car.

in reality the GT500 is probably a consitant 11.7-11.8 car and the ZL-1 is 12.0-12.1 in the manual but the people like above compare apples vs oranges and get 11.5 to 12.5. ha ha

this is whay internet racing is gay. line up them up side by side manual vs manaul I would like to see it.

Ford has run the car at numerous tracks with numerous drivers under a variety of conditions. Some have gone slower some faster but the number that keeps popping up is 11.5 at 125. Why is this hard to believe?

In reality 11.5 vs 12.0 would be apples to apples. A few will go faster most slower. However the good drivers will be able to pull those numbers or faster from each oem they drive in good conditions!

12.0 is coincidentally the number that the 12 gt500 is running. Im still curious as to why gm did not create a greater difference in the zl1?

[Ron66Vette&10SS]

Originally Posted by gearhead08

Did the ZL1 vs GT500 thread get deleted?

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

It got moved to the general section.

Why would they do that? It won't get as much traffic there. And how can people find it easily when for some reason they didn't put the little arrow graphic with "MOVED" and a link to get to it.

It's almost as if someone just wants the thread to slowly die off because it's gotten too big and would be impossible to delete without people noticing.....oh wait......oops.....forget I said anything.

[big hammer]

man. since both the camaro and corvette are going to get a re working soon, it's going to be very interesting what they come out with.