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06-01-2017, 03:34 PM
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06-01-2017, 04:08 PM
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 2017 Retail ATP's May 2017 (JDPin) Camaro: $40,800 Challenger: $37,341 Mustang: $36,515 The Camaro ATP's jumped nearly $2k from April - I'm assuming due to ZL1 deliveries. 2017 Fleet Sale % YTD Camaro: 6% Challenger: 33% Mustang: 34% April and May represented the largest sales to fleet of the 6th gen Camaro to date, yet was still small. The total % to fleet remains significantly lower than the Challenger/Mustang.
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06-01-2017, 04:31 PM
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Ford and FCA love fleet sales. Not a good long term solution. |
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06-01-2017, 06:24 PM
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Very much appreciated.Applying those percentages to total year to date sales shows... 2017 Retail Sales YTD (May) Camaro: 29,963 Mustang: 25,359 Challenger: 19,634 Camaro's ATP is $3,459 higher than Challenger and $4,285 than Mustang.
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06-01-2017, 08:51 PM
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^ I think the main takeaway is GM sold 40 less cars but made almost 3500 more dollars on each car sold than the Mustang did. Which means the Gen 6 is probably more profitable (since a lot of the underpinnings come from the CTS and ATS). Sortra blows the whole notion away the GM is losing its ass on the Gen6 that was on here a few months ago imo.
Would be interesting to see how things shake out with the Mustang re-design(plus new GT500) this year and Camaro re-design(and possible Z28) next year. |
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06-01-2017, 09:19 PM
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Okay guys, yes 2nd strongest month of 2017, but sales were down 896 units from April. April and 1st half of May is Tax season refunds, so look for the numbers to go down for June. How much we don't know, but sales are higher April and May across all car makers, extra cash on hand due to tax refunds.
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06-01-2017, 09:37 PM
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The fact that they're killing Dodge in Ford and non fleet sales is all that matters it shows that the Camaro is the better car hands down and the others are subpar. Plus the fact that GM is making more money per car I think that the Camaro sitting pretty and I think that GM is more than happy with the healthy sales it's having.
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06-01-2017, 09:48 PM
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Here comes another 10+ pages of infinite wisdom.
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06-01-2017, 09:53 PM
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Lovin the growl...
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Lol...
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06-02-2017, 12:31 AM
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 We would love to see this every month  The numbers are startling. So much more profit than Mustang or Challenger. 6% fleet for Camaro - almost NONE! Notice how the Mustang trolls have quietly disappeared.  If they appear, direct them to these numbers, and tell them to stfu. 5th gen'rs, we love ya, but we're not only making loads more money on the 6th gen, it's a world-class sports car rated better than C7 Corvette. 5th gens always had to apologize for weightyness and zeta chassis. And if the Camaro 7th gen is a better sports car, I'll buy one of those too. State of the Art Last edited by camaro5; 06-02-2017 at 01:10 AM. |
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06-02-2017, 12:32 AM
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Its clear most people don't follow the auto industry trends and understand what really going on. Car sales are at all time low right now, this is industry wide and has been happening for over the last 5 months.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bus...wth/102378050/ Before commenting please educate your self. Or if you such a genius go apply to GM's marketing team.
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06-02-2017, 01:42 AM
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06-02-2017, 02:22 AM
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