10-06-2015, 02:38 AM | #15 |
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Glad to hear that it worked out for you. Love my convertible and it is a 2013 with the redesigned top and no problems. I have had four Corvettes in the past, and although 2 were Targa tops, it is not quite the same as a convertible. You live in California with year round great weather, so my choice would be another convertible. To me it is what a sports car should be. My best friends in my sig feel the same way. Also, I think with the new C7 you can raise and lower the top at speeds up to 30mph. As stated before the Targa top is a good compromise. A coupe is just another one dimensional car IMO.
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10-06-2015, 08:41 AM | #16 |
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Since you "love your Camaro", if I were you, I'd wait another month or so and drive a Gen6 Camaro FIRST. I think you just got a Camaro with the drop top assembled by someone having a bad day. Buy-backs are extremely rare and an absolute last resort when a problem simply cannot be fixed.
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10-06-2015, 11:56 AM | #18 |
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I glad a Lemon Law exists. But I'm really surprised that it could apply to a drop top issue. But good on ya, brother. They'll make out jim dandy, especially if you buy a new Vette.
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10-06-2015, 12:16 PM | #19 |
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It would be interesting to find out what GM does with mr.iNCREDIBLE's Camaro. Will they
junk it, let a GM employee drive it, end up on a dealers used car lot, etc.
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The Corvette top is a 3-bow design (smaller area than that of the Gen5) and it dumps into it's own specific compartment in an inverted state (the top flips back so the headliner is actually facing up, with a tonneau cover to secure it. A design that GM has used on the Corvette convertibles since the 1950s and a design that is used by several other convertible manufacturers that is proven to protect the convertible top during highway speed driving, preventing the flapping that causes the premature wear. GM knows the current Camaro design is flawed, and they have addressed the issue by making the convertible top design on the Gen6 Camaro similar, nearly identical to the Corvette design, a designated compartment for storage with a tonneau cover that protects the top, additionally if you watch how the corvette and gen 6 Camaro tops folds, it is a tri-fold design where the front is inverted when stored, preventing the flap and the need for the excessive fold design. I am still up in the air about it, and will be doing a ton of research before making the decision, but so far the research I have done and the people I have spoken to that own C6 and C7 convertibles praise the design and claim they have had zero problems. Quote:
I don't know that I want to wait 6 months, nor do I want to buy a first run of a newly redesigned model. I have owned 2 first run vehicles in the past that were plagued with problems (a Ford and a Chrysler), I stuck it out with both and never lemon lawed the vehicles because I had extended warranty for the issues, unfortunately I was not able to get the same for the Camaro, as the convertible top is excluded in any GM extended warranty, it is stated that the top and all corresponding parts are excluded from extended warranty coverage. Yes I have a history of being that guy who wants to have the first model of a hot design, and it has bitten me in the ass twice. I waited on the Camaro until the 2nd year because I didn't want to end up with issues, and it still happened.. Quote:
I looked at a dozen 2015s on the lot as the initial buy back option was to replace my 2012 with another Camaro, sad to say every one of the brand new 2015s on the lot had the exact same rub marks and deformity that I have on the 2012. IMO the issue is not fixed, Some people don't experience the problem as much because they don't drive with their top down as often. my top is never up unless the car is parked or it is raining. I can count on one hand the number of times I have driven with the top up. the rubbing comes from the flapping which is a result of a poor design and poor air channeling design which causes a lot of air to pocket under the top. Quote:
however in CA, it is simple: if a repair cannot be fixed in 3 dealer visits, or the repairs cause loss of vehicle use by the registered owner for more than 30 days as a result of those dealer visits, it is considered a lemon. Quote:
since there is no "safety" issue, the vehicle will return to the street and be sold to someone else. Since it has already been bought back the next owner will have no option for Lemon Law, they will simply have to live with the problems.
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10-06-2015, 01:19 PM | #22 |
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yes it will be flagged as a buy back vehicle on car fax and on the title. same as if it was a salvage title., flagged in both places.
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10-06-2015, 02:31 PM | #23 |
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I understand. I forgot that the verts weren't coming out until the spring, but you could still test drive a coupe just to get familiar with all the other improvements that we are hoping for. If you really like the Gen6, you could probably wait a few more months for the vert.
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10-06-2015, 02:45 PM | #24 |
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Sounds like you have a nice replacement car in the works.
Now when are you coming out with a sequel?
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according to Pixar, November of 2017.
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10-06-2015, 05:54 PM | #26 |
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I was so disappointed when the rub marks appeared on my Vert. I had no idea there were issues because I didn't do my homework here first. I just figured VERTS have been around a long time, so they must have figured out how to make them work perfectly.
I got the top replaced and immediately saw impression marks in the same spot even with the so called fix which has extra cords to pull the top in differently during retracting. So I had a careful look at the spots and where they could be rubbing and fixed it myself with some simple grinding (same as one of GM's fixes but was never done although they said it was). No issues after. So glad to have the VERT. Everybody loves it and the black top looks so good on the white car. Anyway, my point is that if anyone is having trouble with the rubbing, it's not rocket science. Figure it out yourself because you'll be better off than someone else constantly ripping it apart and screwing something else up. J |
10-06-2015, 06:20 PM | #27 |
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Glad to hear it worked out for you. I had a 2012 45th 2SSvert. I sold it after a year because of the vert problems so I understand where you are coming from. Just wish I got the deal you got. In Canada we have no such protection
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10-07-2015, 11:20 AM | #28 |
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Looking forward to it! Really enjoyed watching the first one when my son was young.
We'll be waiting for pics of the new car.
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