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Old 03-08-2014, 11:29 AM   #26
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Thanks bro. You coming to the fest?

I really would like to but that's a long haul for me and the wife and kid wouldn't survive the road trip. They'd stretch it out an extra day or two. Then the wife knows better than to trust me on my own for that long... lmao!

If they ever pull one off in the SE around the Carolina's or Georgia, Florida would be best for me but I doubt that will ever happen. I would be there in a heart beat. They should do one in Daytona... at the Speedway.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:32 PM   #27
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Magnesium doesn't ignite like in a lab. Yea magnesium shavings from machining can ignite, but Indy cars been using mag wheels for decades, hit walls at 200 mph and guess what, no fires. My oem valve covers on my BMW are mag. You can throw a match into diesel and it won't ignite. Lots of misinformation.
You also can't ignite gasoline with a cigarette, like about 80% of action movies portray. I watched the MythBusters debunk that one, and STILL didn't believe it myself... so I tried it myself, everything from aeration to blazing the brightest cherry on the planet, but, nope: a cigarette will not ignite gasoline.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:22 PM   #28
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The trunk is is not aluminum on a Camaro, at least not on my 2010.
That's new for 2014

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I really would like to but that's a long haul for me and the wife and kid wouldn't survive the road trip. They'd stretch it out an extra day or two. Then the wife knows better than to trust me on my own for that long... lmao!

If they ever pull one off in the SE around the Carolina's or Georgia, Florida would be best for me but I doubt that will ever happen. I would be there in a heart beat. They should do one in Daytona... at the Speedway.
Yeah, I would definitely come to one in Daytona. All the other ones except the first one in GA were too far for me to take my fourth gen.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:22 PM   #29
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Just read the article in this month's Car and Driver
They have a Porsche 918 Spider for about $847K basic model , Magnesium , Titanium ,Inconel ,carbon fiber on several parts , even the connecting rods are in titanium
How much are one willing to pay for this things is a different question
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:16 AM   #30
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Aluminum is high cost. Tooling is different. All chromed working surfaces. Shallow draw. Lots of air release holes. The process is slower and QC is the highest. I can see hood, doors and roof panel but question the rest. Maybe front fenders if the design isn't to complicated. GM is not a leader in this field, so I see some outside contractors doing a lot of the initial work here. This is absolutely nothing like drawing DQSK steel. Not even close. I would recommend to GM to NOT use people from a steel stamping facility to make any aluminum parts. Major mistake. Requires muti-speed transfer presses. FYI the thickest metal used to make any body part was the late 80s Camaro Firebird T top, convertible rear quarters. .040 steel
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Old 03-09-2014, 02:12 PM   #31
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The problem with aluminum is its a body repairmens nightmare. Its harder to work with and will be more expensive to repair. Some minor repairs on panels will probably be ending replaced than patched costing a lot more.
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Old 03-09-2014, 06:10 PM   #32
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The trunk lid is too.
Isn't that only on the 2014's?
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:11 PM   #33
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The problem with aluminum is its a body repairmens nightmare. Its harder to work with and will be more expensive to repair. Some minor repairs on panels will probably be ending replaced than patched costing a lot more.

Somebody I was having a conversation about the new F-150 with mentioned "explosive sanding dust" hmmmm... sounds sketchy. It's the way of the future though. Thanks to the new CAFE standards that are here and on the way.
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:29 PM   #34
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Yeah, I would definitely come to one in Daytona. All the other ones except the first one in GA were too far for me to take my fourth gen.
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Isn't that only on the 2014's?

How do we know the trunk lid for the 14's is aluminum? Just curious

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Old 03-09-2014, 11:50 PM   #35
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Do we expect to see some prototype by now? or mid year?
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:58 PM   #36
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It would be great to hear something before I pull the trigger on a 14. I'm wondering if because GM is so quiet, maybe 15 will be the restyle?
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^Are you trading your Mustang for a 2014 Camaro?
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:26 AM   #38
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No, I will be keeping the mustang, at least I'm going to try. I sold my 13 ZL1 and miss it, I guess you could say I'm a Chevy guy at heart.
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How do we know the trunk lid for the 14's is aluminum? Just curious

Thanks guys
Somebody get a magnet!
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:25 AM   #41
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Thats a great idea, can anyone confirm this?
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hydroforming aluminum, new welding technicques, GM is on the forefront of alot of engineering breakthroughs...with a forward outlook on green sustainability.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:41 PM   #43
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Checked the trunk on my 14 ZL1, it is not aluminum
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