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Old 03-16-2014, 03:04 AM   #987
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No matter how much HP it has a 4cyl will sound like a 4 cyl.... Lame
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:19 AM   #988
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No matter how much HP it has a 4cyl will sound like a 4 cyl.... Lame
Actually there is technology to fix that. It's fake, but I heard a Solstice turbo that was "tuned" electronically to sound like a V8. With this you could make your car sound however you want and never change the exhaust.

But it isn't "genuine" IMO. But it exists.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:11 PM   #989
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As Carroll Shelby initially called the Mustang a "secretary's car" maybe the 4 cylinder is a good move for satisfying all economies especially when gas prices go up.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:21 PM   #990
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Ah, but then consider a 2014 Mustang GT is over 400 HP now.

It's just progress. V8s will keep getting more and more powerful and so will smaller engines. 10 years from now, a GT might be hitting 500 HP and doing 30 MPG for all we know.

And hybrids aren't always a bad thing. Case in point:

Saw that gorgeous car on Top Gear. The batteries actually complement the big V8, kicking in a times when it's most needed. AMAZING!
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Old 03-19-2014, 02:00 AM   #991
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Why not the turbocharged V6 from the CTS? 420 hp and 0-60 in 4.4? 16/24 mpg?
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Old 03-19-2014, 05:23 PM   #992
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I'd like to see the 6th Gen Max out @ around 3,400lbs .... (just wishing)
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:55 PM   #993
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4 cyl with turbo would be okay....but there's nothing sweeter than listening to that v8 engine
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:34 PM   #994
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Again you keep saying you won't buy GM if they price them too high. Again I say it's not going to be just GM but ALL manufacturers. So does that mean you just won't buy from GM or not from anyone?
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Why buy a 4 cylinder sports car though? At that point doesn't a truck, Jeep (or SUV) or entry-level luxury sedan sound better? Or heck, buying a 10 year old car that still has it's original high-HP engine?
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:52 PM   #995
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Why buy a 4 cylinder sports car though? At that point doesn't a truck, Jeep (or SUV) or entry-level luxury sedan sound better? Or heck, buying a 10 year old car that still has it's original high-HP engine?
Hmm, well there are plenty if 4 cylinder SPORTS CARS. Cylinder count has nothing to do with a car is considered a sports car or not. Sports Cars can have 4, 6, 8, 10 or even 12 cylinders, and some of each are available today.
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:18 PM   #996
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^that right there is funny! no lie waayyy over reaction!
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:54 PM   #997
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Because smaller displacement, forced induction engines with anything less than 8 cylinders are bad for sports cars. Right? Right...?
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:04 PM   #998
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hahaha right again ^..I would kill for one of those!
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Why not the turbocharged V6 from the CTS? 420 hp and 0-60 in 4.4? 16/24 mpg?
Cuz FE isn't much better than a V8 and it costs and weighs almost as much as a V8. Not a real big advantage. I wish they had just put the LT1 in the V-sport.

But the 2.0T in the ATS is pretty solid. If they can keep the weight decent it will be pretty fun. In a few months we will have reviews of the ATS coupe and that will indicate what we could expect.
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Cuz FE isn't much better than a V8 and it costs and weighs almost as much as a V8. Not a real big advantage. I wish they had just put the LT1 in the V-sport.

But the 2.0T in the ATS is pretty solid. If they can keep the weight decent it will be pretty fun. In a few months we will have reviews of the ATS coupe and that will indicate what we could expect.
I just wish they'd have "unplugged" the LF3 a bit more and gave it something like 440hp and 460 or more TQ. Maybe they are keeping some power on the table for the future?

The thing will put down more torque to the rear wheels when tuned than it does stock at the crank. Not saying GM can turn it up nearly that high and keep it to their reliability standards...I realize that. Just saying that is a lot of room to grow lol.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:01 PM   #1001
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Because smaller displacement, forced induction engines with anything less than 8 cylinders are bad for sports cars. Right? Right...?
Don't believe me, just look at what GM produces. And you didn't answer the question. If we're all going to be compelled to get 55 mpg econo-boxes, why would we buy the 55 mpg sports car instead of the 55 mpg luxury car, or the 55 mpg SUV? At the end of the day, they'll all lug. But only one type will be marketed as "fast".

And also, you're using a 6 cylinder-equipped car to prove that a 4 cylinder engine replacing a 6 cylinder engine option is... something. I can't tell, other than that you're trolling and probably drunk.
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Yes, let's look at what GM produces, a 460 HP sports car capable of 30+ MPG in real world fuel economy.

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Old 03-21-2014, 11:52 PM   #1003
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Chevrolet put 4 cylinders in Camaro's 30 years ago....when they were not nearly as good as they are now.
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