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Old 01-23-2014, 05:24 PM   #151
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Doc , can you give it a chance , and try to increase the size of the head lights like 50% wider , with a line dividing it in two sections
And maybe putting the turn signal at the far outside corner of the grill
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Here ya go. I was also experimenting with some lighting effects which gives it an interesting look.

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....interesting Doc, I saw some Corvair inspired lines to it!
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:49 PM   #153
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Here ya go. I was also experimenting with some lighting effects which gives it an interesting look.

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I like the front , but the big space in between the headlights and the lower fog lights is asking for something in there
And I'm not sure what to put in there , maybe a intake vent for the front brakes ?!

And on the back , regarding the exhaust pipes could be within the rear diffuser , flash with it , having a 1" clearance and some kind a metal trim around it but not round tips , something that go hand on hand with the shape of the area surrounding it
And all in black and kind of looking downwards a little , this can be archived by following the angle of the diffuser
On the door handle , I think that it should be just in the door itself
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Old 01-25-2014, 11:52 PM   #154
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....interesting Doc, I saw some Corvair inspired lines to it!
Funny you should mention Corvair. Realizing that the gas mileage requirements coming in the future of over 50 mpg was going to make it nearly impossible to keep big V8's, I was working on the idea of a super slippery shape with a low drag coefficient as a way to help improve gas mileage. A car could still have a small-block V8 or V6 and reach the mpg requirements if it had a low drag coefficient.

Originally I was trying this shape as a Camaro but I realized the Camaro crowd would simply not accept a shape like this, so I was thinking it might work as a revived Corvair and it could even have either a rear or mid-engine design. Something new for Chevy... a light-weight, super-handling, perfect weight-balance car that's a blast to drive and gets great gas mileage. Beautiful styling but not a lot of expensive technology so the price could be kept low. It's an idea anyways.

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Old 01-27-2014, 11:43 AM   #155
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I really appreciate your effort regarding this post. I agree to you and I'll stand on your side and I really loved all your ideas and thoughts. Keep it up. Thanks for posting.
Well thank you and you're welcome. I enjoy making these concepts and it's good to know that others enjoy them too.
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Old 01-27-2014, 05:42 PM   #156
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"O" no not flip up Headlights :( Yikes < I hated the vette because of them for years. I was very very Happy when in 2005 they lost the FLIPUP design.
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Funny you should mention Corvair. Realizing that the gas mileage requirements coming in the future of over 50 mpg was going to make it nearly impossible to keep big V8's, I was working on the idea of a super slippery shape with a low drag coefficient as a way to help improve gas mileage. A car could still have a small-block V8 or V6 and reach the mpg requirements if it had a low drag coefficient.

Originally I was trying this shape as a Camaro but I realized the Camaro crowd would simply not accept a shape like this, so I was thinking it might work as a revived Corvair and it could even have either a rear or mid-engine design. Something new for Chevy... a light-weight, super-handling, perfect weight-balance car that's a blast to drive and gets great gas mileage. Beautiful styling but not a lot of expensive technology so the price could be kept low. It's an idea anyways.
...at any rate Doc I like your concepts and thinking....very refreshing.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:43 PM   #158
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"O" no not flip up Headlights :( Yikes < I hated the vette because of them for years. I was very very Happy when in 2005 they lost the FLIPUP design.
Those aren't flip-up; I just didn't put the lights inside the lenses yet.

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...at any rate Doc I like your concepts and thinking....very refreshing.
Thank you! Trying to be different so there's a choice and some variety.
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...variety is the spice of life...as the old saying goes....besides...every artist or thinker needs a venue....
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:11 AM   #160
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why does it have wheels? Shouldn't it have, like, some hover thrusters or something?
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why does it have wheels? Shouldn't it have, like, some hover thrusters or something?
..thats on the drawing board ...they predicated flying cars many decades ago...just sayin...LOL. Good post!
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:27 PM   #162
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..thats on the drawing board ...they predicated flying cars many decades ago...just sayin...LOL. Good post!
Flying cars?? LOL that would for SURE require that we not be able to drive them; just be passengers.

This version is a reach towards something conservative that's light, aerodynamic and fuel efficient. It may not work as a Camaro because it seems the Camaro crowd wants to drive a Japanese anime robot on wheels with all kinds of slots, grooves, "evil eyes" so they can be menacing and threatening while they drive. That's not me. I have no desire to be evil or menacing; I want a car that's beautiful, balanced, sleek and fun to drive.

I believe the market for something elegant, fast and classy is bigger than the robot toy market so maybe this would work as a revived Corvair or a new category altogether. With Camaros moving upward in price they're starting to be out of reach for the entry level market, or "second car" market. If the work was put in to make it beautiful and aerodynamic; keep the gizmos and gadgets inside to a minimum so it would start at a price below $20k, I think there would be a pretty big market for it. This could be the car with a 4 or 6 cylinder engine, or even a hybrid that makes up for horsepower with light weight and a low drag coefficient. This car could be the entry level cousin to the Camaro...maybe a Cormaro, or Carvair lol. I don't know just an idea.

I haven't put hardly any effort into the details other than sticking some lights on it. I haven't done anything yet with intakes, brake cooling intakes, there's no rear diffuser, no exhaust pipes, etc. I have an idea for different wheels as well. Right now this is mostly a shape concept with some of the elements being fairly crude at this stage. The focus of this is a street car; NOT a track car so I don't have a lot of aero pieces adding downforce at the expense of forward motion. I suppose those could be added later but that would be for aftermarket modding. This shape is optimized for low forward-motion resistance for straight-line performance and gas mileage which is more useful for typical around town and daily driving. If manufacturers have to produce cars that get over 50 mpg, this concept is intended to help towards that.

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Put it in ye old garage environment...looks better this way. Did some work on the front lighting to get a better idea of how this setup would look. That whole corner is a lens; the top part for the headlight and the bottom part obviously for the running light/turn signal. I made the bottom part of the outside (orange lens) go downward to follow the body line but I'm not sold on that; I'll probably change it. I'm still working out what I want to do on the lower front so that's just kind of "there" at the moment. A few areas need more resolution to smooth out the curves, but otherwise the rest of the body is looking about right.

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This is a bit of a departure from the sleek styles I've been working on. After spending some time staring at the pic that KMPrenger posted in another thread of the original 5th gen concept car, I decided to stop worrying about a retro-inspired design. That concept car is so close to perfect in the way it looks and stands that I honestly don't think that can be improved upon.

So this is a "muscle" car design and it has some Camaro-ish elements to it, but I didn't try and make it look like any particular previous generation. I took the basic elements that it seems most people want to see; beefy fenders, "hips" in the rear fenders, short back and long front, etc. and started with that. It's got a hefty stance to it and (to me anyways) it has a "GM" look to it. I'm still working on it and obviously there's room on the front fascia for fog lights and brake cooling ducts. The low front profile is achieved by having the radiator leaned forward.

This style works well with dark colors and metallics; it's okay with certain light colors but seems to like bold colors the best.

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I'm surprised. I thought I would have gotten at least some kind of reaction to this one. No one even hates it? Did I post this in the right forum?? lol

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Made a couple of changes. Put a more defined line along the side of the body where the cut-in is; added front brake cooling ducts and/or fog light cutouts; made the Chevy logo smaller and moved it to the top of the front.

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I love the c-pillar. It looks like an updated early gen. I think you nailed the side profile.
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:07 PM   #170
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I like it!
Nice. I haven't played with lighting effects yet but that looks pretty cool.

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Pretty good..
Thanks guys!

I've decided to move this particular car to a new thread to give it a clean start:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340760
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