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Old 10-26-2013, 02:12 PM   #151
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Yes....not that is closer to the front end that I've been hoping you'd do! lol

There was just too much distance between the top grill and lower inlets...especially on the sides so that really helps clean it up!
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:16 PM   #152
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Here are a couple of snapshots with a B pillar. Not sure how big to make it so it may be too small, but you can definitely see it here. It does cut down the space of the quarter window but it probably has to be there because of some regulation.

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No it does not have to be there because of regulations but it does make it easier and cheaper to meet the rollover regulations. I am pretty sure there are still cars built without the B pillar that meet the rollover standards.
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:35 PM   #153
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Here are the latest revisions. Slight changes made to the front, front splitter, outside mirror location, and other small changes.

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Old 10-31-2013, 03:33 AM   #154
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Haven't had the time to do much of anything new. I spent WAY too much time on this to begin with to the neglect of other things lol but tonight I managed to create some colors in different shades to see how they'd look. I like blue so I came up with 4 new versions, and I've included Red, White and Silver for contrast.

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the back looking from the side , reminds me of a 1980's fierro
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:06 PM   #156
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the back looking from the side , reminds me of a 1980's fierro
Really!? You think the back of my design from the side looks like this?

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I don't see any resemblance at all....
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:20 PM   #157
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Sky Dusk... reminds me of the blue on my '79 280zx.

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Old 10-31-2013, 01:02 PM   #158
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Really!? You think the back of my design from the side looks like this?

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I don't see any resemblance at all....
He was probably thinking this one, but still not that close.
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:47 PM   #159
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don't get mad bro. i believe i said it reminds me of, not it looks like. that's was the first though it came to my mind when i saw your designs.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:45 AM   #160
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Got started on some aero pieces. I don't have the rear spoiler yet or the hood vent but here are the front, side and wheel arch pieces. The front piece will probably need some reinforcement rods.

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If this was sitting in a dealer's showroom under halogen lights, do you think people would buy it?

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After many comments/requests for a "rounder" look in the front, I've done a version with that style. I pulled the side ledge in to about half what it was and put a lot more "round" in the upper fender, as well as rounding the upper front corners quite a bit. Definitely gives it a softer look; not so much race car as it was before...more of a street car production look.

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After many comments/requests for a "rounder" look in the front, I've done a version with that style. I pulled the side ledge in to about half what it was and put a lot more "round" in the upper fender, as well as rounding the upper front corners quite a bit. Definitely gives it a softer look; not so much race car as it was before...more of a street car production look.

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I look at that front and I can't get the image of a modern version of a 3rd gen out of my head.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:45 PM   #164
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I'm liking the changes. This should also "lighten" up the car a bit to. The black "Z" looks pretty badass. You're design is starting to grow on me.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:07 AM   #165
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I look at that front and I can't get the image of a modern version of a 3rd gen out of my head.
Not sure if that's a complaint or praise... lol

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I'm liking the changes. This should also "lighten" up the car a bit to. The black "Z" looks pretty badass. You're design is starting to grow on me.
Thank you.

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Old 11-07-2013, 09:27 AM   #166
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I was just making that comment it was not criticism. I was really wondering if that was kind of the look you were leaning towards. A retro 3rd Gen/5th Gen Combo.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:29 PM   #167
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Anybody else noticing some similarities here?

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Old 11-07-2013, 06:19 PM   #168
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Some but I like Doc's design A LOT more. I really love what you've done with the back and I think the rounded edges on the front look better as well. The only thing still holding me back is how small the upper grill is on the front. But great renderings so far!

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Old 11-08-2013, 12:56 PM   #169
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I have a hunch that GM will be going with something more like this as it has similar styling to the upcoming Ford Mustang...

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I have a hunch we aren't.................
There you have it.
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Old 11-08-2013, 05:12 PM   #171
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Well now I know for sure that someone from GM has seen this thread. Hopefully Scott and whomever else from GM that looks at it will take it in the spirit with which it's been created. After being vocal on the forum about not liking the back of the 2014 refresh (I've seen it in person now; still don't like it) I read one of Scott's replies and it made me sit back and think. The Camaro design team doesn't hate the Camaro, nor did they deliberately downgrade the looks. They honestly thought this refresh was at the least equal to it's predecessor, if not an actual upgrade in styling. I don't envy them their position of having to make changes to such a wildly successful and iconic car.

My intention with this thread was to "put up or shut up" about the styling, by offering something constructive as to what I would have liked to/would like to see. My design goals were driver visibility; in particular the forward view to the corners, lighter and smaller than the 5th gen., a move towards a more upscale muscle car/road GT design/style with a sleeker, more modern design. I also wanted to minimize if not outright avoid trendy styling gimmicks.

I believe I've achieved my goals with this concept and hopefully the design team at GM will get some ideas to help them make the 6th gen a dynamic and exciting car visually. I have no doubt it will be that way mechanically and technologically.

I need to see if I can find a 3d model of a 5th Camaro that I can place next to mine and render them both together so viewers can get a really good idea how much difference there actually is, yet this concept still has that familiar "it's a Camaro" look and feel.

Thank you Scott for your original post defending the Camaro design team which inspired my whole concept project, and for taking the time to view this effort.

Just for fun I'm in the process of creating a street scene to provide something more interesting than just the car sitting in the middle of nowhere or in a garage. I'm thinking of maybe creating the Nighthawk Cafe opposite the far corner.
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:14 PM   #172
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I got to say they all look hideous , nothing about them make think Camaro. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's just my opinion.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:59 PM   #173
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those mirrors.....look like shrek ears...... yuck lol
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I like it, especially the Black Z! I think the only thing that I'd change about it is that the side looks kind of boxy - I think it might be the straight edge along the very bottom of the doors. If you look at the Gen5 that bottom section hints at bowing upward a bit, so it forms more of an aerodynamic hour glass figure.

I love the rear 3/4 view!
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I got to say they all look hideous , nothing about them make think Camaro. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's just my opinion.
I can accept that you don't like it; that's fine, everyone's entitled to their opinion but there's no way by any measuring standard that this design can be called "hideous". If these views don't make you think "Camaro" then what manufacturer/car model DO they make you think of?
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those mirrors.....look like shrek ears...... yuck lol
They also look great when driving because they're low and out of the way when you're taking corners; especially on a race track. That's the purpose of the thinned extensions the mirrors are attached to; increased visibility for the driver.

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I like it, especially the Black Z! I think the only thing that I'd change about it is that the side looks kind of boxy - I think it might be the straight edge along the very bottom of the doors. If you look at the Gen5 that bottom section hints at bowing upward a bit, so it forms more of an aerodynamic hour glass figure.

I love the rear 3/4 view!
Thank you for the feedback!

The look of the side was the result of an early design decision to go with a box setup for the body sides to enclose the wheels for improved aerodynamics. It follows standard racing stying, and while not typical for the street it would be an advantage on a track. I suppose I could do a version with rounded lower edges on the sides and front but that would completely change the identity of the car. I deliberately gave it a high-performance street-legal track car kind of look; more along the lines of an upscale road GT. The other advantage of this style is you don't get mud and crud slung up the side of the car from the wheels.
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