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Old 05-07-2013, 04:28 PM   #76
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Right as for the Z/28? They'll def have one. But it wont be anything near this one. Remember, these cars are modern muscle and since history repeats itself, you honestly think performance will stay on a steady increase? Lets look back at where these modern muscle cars came from. 1967-69, most notibly 1969. After 1972, the high perfomance started to drop. In '72 you had the LS-3 "396" as the big perfomer. 1973 "SS" was dropped to "LT" and largest engine was a 350 with 243HP max. This is where performance is headed. May not be this drastic since theyre including DI plus Turbos, Twin Turbos/SuperChargers on them to obtain fuel economy and have the HP behind them. But dont expect a plethora of naturally aspirated engines with too high of HP in the next gen as compared to these 5th gens. They do have one engine to get there and thats the LT1 which will have equal or greater HP than the current SS. After this, I dont see it increasing but actually decreasing in displacement and running FI to stay near the HP numbers if they decide they want to stay near it. The 6th gen will probably outperform the 5th because of reduction in weight and the LT1. After this engine, displacement will drop and so will HP.
Imagine the future a little more the California strict way... Camaro 1EV - with an electric option. Rather than fully reliant on gasoline... I wouldn't count on history repeating it self in power decrease, but it would be like the transition into the 3rd gens, they were more or less the first gen with major smog fitments and a more outlook in aerodynamics (some may argue... feel free to correct me if i'm wrong)... the 5th gen to 6th gen could follow with stricter smog requirements and transitioning into electric.

Just a food for thought, not necessarily my hopes or what not..
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:25 AM   #77
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Imagine the future a little more the California strict way... Camaro 1EV - with an electric option. Rather than fully reliant on gasoline... I wouldn't count on history repeating it self in power decrease, but it would be like the transition into the 3rd gens, they were more or less the first gen with major smog fitments and a more outlook in aerodynamics (some may argue... feel free to correct me if i'm wrong)... the 5th gen to 6th gen could follow with stricter smog requirements and transitioning into electric.

Just a food for thought, not necessarily my hopes or what not..
I would think GM discontinues the camaro name before going to electric with it. I wont be the least bit surprised if after the 6th gen, they discontinue it.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:24 PM   #78
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I would think GM discontinues the camaro name before going to electric with it. I wont be the least bit surprised if after the 6th gen, they discontinue it.
I would hope not... but you're probably right, i honestly cant see them putting an electric motor in a Camaro nor or ever in the future...
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:02 PM   #79
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I would hope not... but you're probably right, i honestly cant see them putting an electric motor in a Camaro nor or ever in the future...
If Ferrari can go hybrid then maybe anything is possible
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pfft 20 yrs from now when some 16 yr old kid picks up one of these cars for like 1k, he's gonna come here and ask what?

"will a cold air intake void my warranty?"

You know it's gonna happen,calling it now.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:42 AM   #82
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pfft 20 yrs from now when some 16 yr old kid picks up one of these cars for like 1k, he's gonna come here and ask what?

"will a cold air intake void my warranty?"

You know it's gonna happen,calling it now.
I think the warranty will be long gone by then.
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Right as for the Z/28? They'll def have one. But it wont be anything near this one. Remember, these cars are modern muscle and since history repeats itself, you honestly think performance will stay on a steady increase? Lets look back at where these modern muscle cars came from. 1967-69, most notibly 1969. After 1972, the high perfomance started to drop. In '72 you had the LS-3 "396" as the big perfomer. 1973 "SS" was dropped to "LT" and largest engine was a 350 with 243HP max. This is where performance is headed. May not be this drastic since theyre including DI plus Turbos, Twin Turbos/SuperChargers on them to obtain fuel economy and have the HP behind them. But dont expect a plethora of naturally aspirated engines with too high of HP in the next gen as compared to these 5th gens. They do have one engine to get there and thats the LT1 which will have equal or greater HP than the current SS. After this, I dont see it increasing but actually decreasing in displacement and running FI to stay near the HP numbers if they decide they want to stay near it. The 6th gen will probably outperform the 5th because of reduction in weight and the LT1. After this engine, displacement will drop and so will HP.
They didn't just reduce HP in a vacuum in the '70s. There was the clean air act that got rid of leaded 100 octane gas, (which was everywhere). Catalytic converters, the OPEC oil embargo, rising insurance rates (since they made it mandatory). And Govt surcharges on muscle cars. A perfect storm of fun killing dooky that ruined the US auto industry in my opinion. I was a young man then but remember after the early 70's they started making little compact cheap wanna-be Japanese economy cars, and big oversized underpowered boats. Both of which had little appeal to me.
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