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Old 03-28-2013, 02:00 PM   #176
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Oh I completely agree with that. Couple years in the Camaro and that will be it.

I was just thinking what it would be like to have it in a 3,300 lbl Camaro on the Alpha chassis.
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:28 PM   #177
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Stuffing a live axle in the back would cut weight and improve 1/4 mile performance.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:04 PM   #178
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I could use a 15% weight reduction lol
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:27 PM   #179
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I could use a 15% weight reduction lol
Just have your CEO mandate it by your 2016 model year...If the pressure's on, you can do it!...lol...
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:50 PM   #180
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Oh I completely agree with that. Couple years in the Camaro and that will be it.

I was just thinking what it would be like to have it in a 3,300 lbl Camaro on the Alpha chassis.
It would be something like this ...

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Old 12-07-2013, 08:03 PM   #181
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....Perhaps the 6th Gen Camaro may actually turn out to be a lighter weight car than the new Mustangs....
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:27 AM   #182
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....Perhaps the 6th Gen Camaro may actually turn out to be a lighter weight car than the new Mustangs....
I'd say that's a pretty safe bet. The fact that Ford has completely shut up about weight loss in the Mustang has led some to speculate that the new car has probably GAINED weight. An Alpha Camaro should have no trouble undercutting the new Mustang in terms of weight.
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:34 PM   #183
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I'd say that's a pretty safe bet. The fact that Ford has completely shut up about weight loss in the Mustang has led some to speculate that the new car has probably GAINED weight. An Alpha Camaro should have no trouble undercutting the new Mustang in terms of weight.
The news is out that the 2015 Mustang is 200 pounds lighter than the current S197 Model. Base engine offer will be a eco 4 with 2 turbo's Making over 300HP.6cyl and 8cyl are in the lineup.
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:54 PM   #184
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The news is out that the 2015 Mustang is 200 pounds lighter than the current S197 Model. Base engine offer will be a eco 4 with 2 turbo's Making over 300HP.6cyl and 8cyl are in the lineup.
Do you have a solid source for that 200lb claim? There has been rumor/speculation about the car losing 200 lbs, but as I understand it, Ford was silent on this point during their media splash last week.

That silence has been interpreted by some as a possible indication that there's no weight loss... and, in fact, a weight gain isn't impossible due to added equipment coupled with zero reduction in the overall dimensions of the car.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:01 PM   #185
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I think this is great stuff for Camaro fans, and I'm also starting to think the Mustang hasn't lost much if any weight. Sure, the 4 cylinder will be lighter, but it appears that the Alpha Camaro should be right in the ballpark.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:30 PM   #186
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Do you have a solid source for that 200lb claim? There has been rumor/speculation about the car losing 200 lbs, but as I understand it, Ford was silent on this point during their media splash last week.

That silence has been interpreted by some as a possible indication that there's no weight loss... and, in fact, a weight gain isn't impossible due to added equipment coupled with zero reduction in the overall dimensions of the car.
http://www.imotortimes.com/2015-must...-gallery-21761

News on a few sites as to the 200lb. loss, nothing confirmed solid as of yet.
Yes it could weigh more but I doubt it, everyone is working hard at dropping the pounds these days. Camaro is no exception, the Z28 if I heard correctly is 200 lb. lighter so nothing is Impossible.
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:53 PM   #187
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It's like the new corvette, frame was lighter going with aluminum, but there was also weight added back due to electronics. I expect the same to go with the new mustang. Ford not releasing curb weight is a reason that it added weight.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:05 PM   #188
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News on a few sites as to the 200lb. loss, nothing confirmed solid as of yet.
Yes it could weigh more but I doubt it, everyone is working hard at dropping the pounds these days. Camaro is no exception, the Z28 if I heard correctly is 200 lb. lighter so nothing is Impossible.
There are other publications claiming they feel the weight may be no less, or even possibly a gain.

I don't think anyone except the insiders know yet, so we shall wait and see.
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GM Ceo Akerson who ordered this will be gone Jan 14th....I wonder if this weight reduction plan is still a "go", already in the works, subject to change, possibly scrapped...???....Maybe makes no difference...??
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:00 PM   #190
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GM Ceo Akerson who ordered this will be gone Jan 14th....I wonder if this weight reduction plan is still a "go", already in the works, subject to change, possibly scrapped...???....Maybe makes no difference...??
2016 cars are all well along in development. His retiring won't change the status of those programs.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:16 PM   #191
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GM Ceo Akerson who ordered this will be gone Jan 14th....I wonder if this weight reduction plan is still a "go", already in the works, subject to change, possibly scrapped...???....Maybe makes no difference...??
Mr. Akerson left due to family health reasons. If you know the full story, I suspect one would come to the conclusion it was an admirable decision.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:01 PM   #192
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Mr. Akerson left due to family health reasons. If you know the full story, I suspect one would come to the conclusion it was an admirable decision.
Uh, yeah, I heard the story about why he's retiring....Is that a reason to not wonder what the new CEO might have in mind?
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:33 AM   #193
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Much of the ppl are excited for the new platform. Here's the issue at hand. We ALL know how popular this car has become. GM should've taken into account from the get go on weight reduction to compete. What you have now is a hope and prayer that the 6th gen looks as good or better than it is currently. We're behind our competitors a bit and that's frustrating. At the track the 1LE and ZL-1 are great cars. But the SS lacks in competition amongst its rivals no? I love my car, but I wish it'd be a bit more competive out the gate or following yr than to just have a few upgrades on components here and there that make no difference for whet the purpose of the car is for. And that's strictly performance.

For many of us it isn't strictly performance. You are speaking for yourself, not everyone.

My car has to be a daily driver, last over 100,000 miles, be dependable, hold up to reasonable wear and tear, be reasonably affordable to purchase and maintain and it has to perform.

The market for a car that doesn't do all of those things is pretty small.
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Uh, yeah, I heard the story about why he's retiring....Is that a reason to not wonder what the new CEO might have in mind?
Number 3 already answered your question before you posted it. Please refer to his post above yours.
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Number 3 already answered your question before you posted it. Please refer to his post above yours.
...lol...all good, brother...thought maybe you hadn't seen #3's post....
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...lol...all good, brother...thought maybe you hadn't seen #3's post....
...dude, this is the worst example of back peddling I have seen you do yet, but it's all good bro......
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...dude, this is the worst example of back peddling I have seen you do yet, but it's all good bro......
You give me too much credit....I wouldn't know how to back-peddle if I wanted to...lol...
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The news is out that the 2015 Mustang is 200 pounds lighter than the current S197 Model. Base engine offer will be a eco 4 with 2 turbo's Making over 300HP.6cyl and 8cyl are in the lineup.
The news is out in the same way that GM claimed the Z/28 to be 200-300 pounds lighter. Turns out they meant 200-300 pounds lighter than a ZL1. I would place my bets that the 200#'s they're talking about is from previous GT or GT500 weight to the new 4cyl with performance pack. GT to GT I would guess (wild speculation here) that they gained 50-100 pounds. Unless they found a new way to loose weight while keeping the car roughly the same size and adding IRS, more interior features, larger wheels, and more saftey equipment.

I could see the 6th Gen actually being lighter than the mustang though and I really hope that's true.
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