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Old 03-25-2013, 01:28 PM   #71
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Its also the point that that the 5.3L DI will get better gas milieage than the 6.2L...if we all want to keep our V8's in the future, I am all about having an option for a smaller standard V8 to help the company with CAFE ratings, and yes as we say we will pay to play, if you want the bigger engine you will pay for it.
Why are so many people here so accepting of the notion of something standard in the 5th gen model becoming a premium option that will cost considerably more in the 6th gen?
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:37 PM   #72
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Why are so many people here so accepting of the notion of something standard in the 5th gen model becoming a premium option that will cost considerably more in the 6th gen?
Because people are rolling over and letting the government dictate what we can and cannot have.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:47 PM   #73
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I'm really surprised at the news about a "base" Corvette... My understanding was that they were calling the C7 the Stingray because they wanted everyone to feel like they were getting that "upgraded" model. If they wanted a base then they should have had just a Corvette, and then the Corvette Stingray as an upgraded model. Doesn't make sense and contradicts what they were saying when the C7 was unveiled.
The way I understand it the 5.3 Vette is called the Corvette Coupe, not a Stingray. Different hood, front fenders, and a none removable top. GM is the one that said it was going to use the "truck 5.3". This is how the C5 ZO6 started out, as a less expensive Vette with the truck motor, but the last minute put the 345hp motor in it. Later they put 405hp in it and called the ZO6.
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The way I understand it the 5.3 Vette is called the Corvette Coupe, not a Stingray. Different hood, front fenders, and a none removable top. GM is the one that said it was going to use the "truck 5.3". This is how the C5 ZO6 started out, as a less expensive Vette with the truck motor, but the last minute put the 345hp motor in it. Later they put 405hp in it and called the ZO6.
When did the C5 Z06 ever have an LS1? I recall it being launched with the LS6 right out of the box, 385hp the first year, and then 405hp after than.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:42 PM   #75
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The way I understand it the 5.3 Vette is called the Corvette Coupe, not a Stingray. Different hood, front fenders, and a none removable top. GM is the one that said it was going to use the "truck 5.3". This is how the C5 ZO6 started out, as a less expensive Vette with the truck motor, but the last minute put the 345hp motor in it. Later they put 405hp in it and called the ZO6.
The Z06 always had the LS6. The LS1 was in the base Corvette.
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Why are so many people here so accepting of the notion of something standard in the 5th gen model becoming a premium option that will cost considerably more in the 6th gen?
Nobody ever said the price of the 6.2 should go up just that the 5.3 should be less then in turn the 6.2 would be considered a premium engine and cost more then a 5.3 but not much higher then the outgoing model. Also the 6.2 lt1 isn't the same as the the 6.2 ls3 so your point is invalid.
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Because people are rolling over and letting the government dictate what we can and cannot have.
Correction "we the people" are only able to buy what the manufactures give us so don't blame us blame them.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:05 PM   #77
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Nobody ever said the price of the 6.2 should go up just that the 5.3 should be less then in turn the 6.2 would be considered a premium engine and cost more then a 5.3 but not much higher then the outgoing model. Also the 6.2 lt1 isn't the same as the the 6.2 ls3 so your point is invalid.
I'm saying it. Basic logic dictates that a 5.3L would be at least as expensive as the current SS, with the 6.2L going way up (just as it is for the V6 if a turbo-4 is added to the lineup). The LT5.3 would not have much if any production cost difference compared to the LT6.2, with the LT version certainly not cheaper than the current LS3, and since GM is unlikely to introduce a low profit version of the SS, and since a 5.3L and 6.2L version are equally unlikely to be priced the same, that leaves only one possibility, unless the production cost of the rest of the car/Alpha platform is going to be significantly lower, which is unlikely as well.

The point isn't invalid based on the LT1. A 5.3L version of that engine would not match the output of the LS3. And the cost increase of the LT1's new goodies would be very small (a few hundred maybe) compared to the sticker price hike (likely thousands) that would be asked of a whole new trim level above the current LS3 SS, if the 6.2 become a step-up. And quite frankly, the LT1 6.2 alone is not going to be a big enough step-up from the LS3 to justify that magnitude of price increase.

Ultimately, this is a moot argument, though, because a 5.3L Camaro will likely not happen, not now anyway.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:22 PM   #78
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If the Gen 6 weighs 3-400 lbs less than the gen 5, it takes less torque and HP to get it moving..if you think they are gonna still put a 425-450 HP engine in a base V8 camaro, I sadly feel we are at a disagreement.
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If the Gen 6 weighs 3-400 lbs less than the gen 5, it takes less torque and HP to get it moving..if you think they are gonna still put a 425-450 HP engine in a base V8 camaro, I sadly feel we are at a disagreement.
We do disagree. The base 6th gen SS will have 425-450hp.

Keep in mind that the base 2015 Mustang GT will also be in that 425-450 hp range, and weigh about the same as the 6th-gen. The GT already undercuts the SS by $3-4K on price, so if they go with a 5.3L with 375-385-ish hp in the base SS and charge extra for the 425-450hp 6.2L on top of that, it starts to become a hard sell outside the "will never buy anything but a Chevy" community. GM's product planners are certainly smart enough to know that, and the 6th-gen SS will be equipped accordingly.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:51 PM   #80
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Well you are right, but I look at it like the 1SS(or heaven forbid a stripper Z/28) could have the 5.3 and the 2SS have the 6.2 and keep the price difference as they are now and they would still sell as they do now.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:52 PM   #81
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I was born in 1956 and am 1 year younger than Chevrolets 1'st V8. 1955 Chevy had a 265cu.in. engine available.
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I think the 6th gen Z/28 will have the LT1 since its torque curve is that of the LS7 up to 4000 rpms. Base SS..... Well.... Who knows? 5.3? Hmmmm
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I think the 6th gen Z/28 will have the LT1 since its torque curve is that of the LS7 up to 4000 rpms. Base SS..... Well.... Who knows? 5.3? Hmmmm
The LT1 is the base engine. Why would they put it in the Z/28?
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The LT1 is the base engine. Why would they put it in the Z/28?
Good question. Not sure. My question to you is, what'll they use for a Z/28 engine in the 6th gen if produced? Which I'm 95% sure they'll produce it. I don't think the LS7 will be produced in a 6th gen. So give me the list of gen V engines they're bringing to the table.
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