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Old 02-14-2013, 04:09 PM   #18
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Well...If we alll went by that logic, then there is really no point of this entire section concerning the 6th gen. We are human...we are curious and naturally excited about the new "thing" coming along. We want to provide our thoughts and input, so here it is.

Besides, if GM Camaro team is REALLY listening, as they have said they are, and the Camaro disciples have said they are, and Scott (Fbodfather) says they are, then this is a great outlet to show them what we want.
...Never seen a thread begging for an I-4, but that's what we're probably gonna get...Everybody wanted a lighter car, but not with a less powerful engine than what we have now....so yeah, they listen...lol
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:40 PM   #19
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I think the V6 will not dissappear from the camaro the LFX is a good fit for this car and they may even supercharge it at some point.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:54 PM   #20
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Besides, if GM Camaro team is REALLY listening, as they have said they are, and the Camaro disciples have said they are, and Scott (Fbodfather) says they are, then this is a great outlet to show them what we want.
They are simply not listing because "we" make up for a small percent of camaro owners. Plus GM has teams of people who care figure out for the most part whats going to be a good idea and not.

also THEY KNOW the enthusiasts like the v8s and even v6s because thats also what a lot of the people working for GM also like. but most people buying camaros are not "true" car enthusiasts, and honestly a lot of them would buy a 4 banger camaro that gets great MPG.

In the end its all a business and it follows the corporate games. GM and most car manufacturers want people to feel they are being listened to. Although sure at times i would bet they try to listen, but most of the time they are going to do whats best for the company. (which makes sense)

on a side not, reading Fbodfather threads and post are so dam annoying................... because he writes like this....... lol
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:54 PM   #21
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Would you buy this car if it was just a more expensive Honda accord? Yes it looks amazing. But I had a Honda accord and would not want that power back. I hate the idea of putting a 4 cylinder in it. American muscle is supposed to be American muscle, the V6 was even pushing it. They should keep the V8 and V6. No 4 cylinder, no one bought the camaro because of the great gas mileage did they? Buy a Prius.
The Honda Accord comes with either an n/a 4 cylinder or an n/a v6. So, in fact an n/a v6 is more similar to the Accord than a turbo 4 cylinder would be. The v6 in the camaro is a fine engine indeed, but American muscle it is absolutely not. It would be cool to see a mid-tier forced induction 6 in the next gen. If the LT1 is 450hp and they offered a turbo 4 base engine, then maybe the tt 6 they have been working on around 370hp, that would be very cool.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:29 PM   #22
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The V6 is probably going to be the first thing to be killed off thanks to CAFE. The MPG requirements will be too high for a V6. They will install an I4 in place of the current V6, since it will be able to get closer to the MPG mandate than a V6.

They will need to get great MPG with the majority of the fleet because they will need extra MPG to offset the fuel guzzling ZL1 which will be the only V8 option available. In spite of the factthe ZL1 will be limited production and priced so only a select few will be able to get one, they will still need a lot of I4's to make up for it.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:19 PM   #23
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The V6 is probably going to be the first thing to be killed off thanks to CAFE. The MPG requirements will be too high for a V6. They will install an I4 in place of the current V6, since it will be able to get closer to the MPG mandate than a V6.

They will need to get great MPG with the majority of the fleet because they will need extra MPG to offset the fuel guzzling ZL1 which will be the only V8 option available. In spite of the factthe ZL1 will be limited production and priced so only a select few will be able to get one, they will still need a lot of I4's to make up for it.
If that's the case and they quit making the V6 I'll keep mine forever as a collectors item. It will have to be worth something in the future.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:31 PM   #24
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If that's the case and they quit making the V6 I'll keep mine forever as a collectors item. It will have to be worth something in the future.
All is not lost!

I suspect that eventually the I4 will be too much of a guzzler, so the camaro will get some kind of hybrid drivetrain with a V-twin or something and they will drop the V8 from the lineup and the ZL1 and Corvette will get a V6 with forced induction.

You will then be able to get a V6.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:52 PM   #25
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I'd like to see a Supercharged Direct Injection 3800 V6 as an option.
IMO one of the best engine built.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:01 PM   #26
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I'd like to see a Supercharged Direct Injection 3800 V6 as an option.
IMO one of the best engine built.
Freedom of choice is soooo 1776. Get with the times!
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:59 AM   #27
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Freedom of choice is soooo 1776. Get with the times!
The times are changing backwards with massive 3.6 timing chain problems.
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Well, I've read that issue has finally been put to rest with the latest models, but yes...owners of vehicles using the LY7, or LLT from somewhere around mid 2000's through 2011, and MAYBE even the 2012 LFX have that to worry about.

But it should not be something to worry about for the future.

Come on GM...I want a 340HP V6 in a 3,400lb car, so I can mod it to 370 - 380 HP lol . That'd be one sweet little V6....all for mid to upper $20s
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:11 PM   #29
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Well, I've read that issue has finally been put to rest with the latest models, but yes...owners of vehicles using the LY7, or LLT from somewhere around mid 2000's through 2011, and MAYBE even the 2012 LFX have that to worry about.

But it should not be something to worry about for the future.

Come on GM...I want a 340HP V6 in a 3,400lb car, so I can mod it to 370 - 380 HP lol . That'd be one sweet little V6....all for mid to upper $20s
Yep. That would make a really fun daily driver. I would love to see a NA V-6 in the sixth gen myself.
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there will definitly be a v6 option
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:51 AM   #31
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there will definitly be a v6 option
I hope you are right. Time will tell!
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:42 PM   #32
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V8 is what most people dreamed of including myself when I bought my camaro but I settled for a V6 because of the $4.80/gallon here in SoCal. Besides, for most people 323 hp is more than enough. I also noticed the slight advantage with a V6 is that it's lighter and with suspension and intake upgrades, it's a good track car.
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Honestly the more I see it, look at all the V6s is in different cars, theyre putting out sold HP and fuel economy, I dont see why GM would remove the V6 option all together.
At the end of the day, the 2LS gets 30mpg
Cant expect a sports car to be getting 40mpg.
Thats why theyres different segments.
I think GM would be making a big mistake trying to dilute the Camaro for more fuel econ and yes I know the 4cyl Turbos can make a strong car but it also didnt make sense in the 5th gen, they tried it.
The v6 always seems to be the upper vairant to 4cyl models and I dont see that changing. Atleast I hope not.

Personally wouldnt want to HEAR a 4cyl Camaro, guess this is how the V8 guys feel about us
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:11 PM   #34
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Honestly the more I see it, look at all the V6s is in different cars, theyre putting out sold HP and fuel economy, I dont see why GM would remove the V6 option all together.
At the end of the day, the 2LS gets 30mpg
Cant expect a sports car to be getting 40mpg.
Thats why theyres different segments.
I think GM would be making a big mistake trying to dilute the Camaro for more fuel econ and yes I know the 4cyl Turbos can make a strong car but it also didnt make sense in the 5th gen, they tried it.
The v6 always seems to be the upper vairant to 4cyl models and I dont see that changing. Atleast I hope not.

Personally wouldnt want to HEAR a 4cyl Camaro, guess this is how the V8 guys feel about us
I hope they keep the V-6 as well...I sort of look at them these days as having the niche of the "small(er)" blocks that we can't get anymore...

With only one V-8 available, the V-6 more than amply fills the need for another engine option...Looks like the I-4 is gonna happen, just think if it kills the V-6, it's a classic case of fixing something that isn't broke...
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