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I wasn't comparing the two, I was saying I often forget the Corvette when speaking of the Camaro lol
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12-03-2012, 10:17 PM | #115 | |
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I don't think he was comparing the two. He was expressing a desire to see the Camaro be offered in V8 only, and I brought up Corvette; saying it already did that. Don't under-estimate the Camaro's "halo-factor", though...A couple of my local dealers seem to be under the impression that more people are coming in to look at the ZL1 just for eye candy than the Corvette, recently... |
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12-03-2012, 10:20 PM | #117 |
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Because without a lower model, there can be no SS. The business case just doesn't work, unless you want a super limited production car and I can give you a myriad of reasons why that's a stupid idea. Even the upcoming Chevrolet SS sedan (which will be pretty low volume) is probably going to have a lower displacement V8 in addition to the LS3.
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12-03-2012, 10:21 PM | #119 | |
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It truly is the beauty of the Camaro to be able to appeal to such a wide range of buyers. You want a V8? Here you are? What about a V8 on steroids? We've got that, too....V6 with some kick? Bingo! Maybe the next generation will add a Turbo-4 to that wide selection! As far as I'm concerned, knowing how the team feels about this car...the passion they bring to their work...it can only get better. |
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12-03-2012, 10:23 PM | #120 |
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Holden needs export markets. Simple as that. Plus enthusiasts have been clamoring for the Commodore's return since Pontiac's demise. GM's killing two birds with one stone.
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Less weight... no drives great... less weight... drives great!
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This downsize and turbocharge trend is a marketing/EPA rating scam that is ultimately costing owners more money for less longevity, and really not saving anyone anything on fuel.
These turbo fours get impressive mileage ratings from the EPA (which I guess is all any of the manufactures care about anymore), but in the real world, provide very little benefit...and if you drive one hard and keep them spooled, they can become even thirstier than the NA V6 engines they replace, while needing 40 cent a gallon higher premium to boot. Quote:
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And lets compare the ATS vs. Camaro. The V6 Camaro has 50 more horsepower, and despite being over 300 pounds heavier and less aerodynamic, is about as efficient. 3.6>2.0T.
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12-03-2012, 10:38 PM | #123 |
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they are STUPID if they make a 4 banger Camaro...its an american muscle car! not a ricer or import! if you want a lightweight turbo ricer then buy a neon or something stupid like that...and the whole mpg thing needs to stop too...i get it for daily drivers and "normal" cars, but this is a SPORTS car...let it go...i will have no respect for the 4 cyl camaro no matter what the power or how lightweight it is. v6 and v8 only!
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Personally I want to get just an SS and ZL1, I know it will be more money, but I think I'll find it more entertaining to build to where a ZL1 is. For some reason that's just fun to me and I don't think a ZL1 would be a good 'starter' car for me coming from a Monte haha |
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12-03-2012, 10:43 PM | #125 |
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All you guys who keep saying its a muscle car it shouldn't have a 4/6 cylinder, V8 only, are really in a general public minority. All you need to do is look at the sales numbers. In every model, muscle/pony car. The smaller engine cars out sell the V8s. It's always been that way. The big engine cars bring in the customers, but most will end up dropping down to the smaller engines when they go to buy.
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