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Old 12-03-2012, 11:31 AM   #29
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It failed miserably when Ford tried it with the Mustang back in the day. But if that's just a base engine and the LT1 Vette motor is still an option for the SS all should be fine. Especially, with that new light weight rumored about from the ATS Zeta platform. That new ATS rips pretty nicely for a base model Caddy. Dump in the LT1 motor and you have a low 12 high 11 second SS that should handle like it was on rails.
most likely the engine will probably be something like what was in the cobalt SS TC. I wouldn't buy a 4 banger camaro but it should appeal well to those that want a good mpg. As long as there is a option for a big v8 I'm happy
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:32 AM   #30
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Next gen Camaro resides on Alpha which today has 2.0L Turbo... pretty much a foregone conclusion especially with fuel economy needs beyond 2015. I don't see the V8 going away in a Camaro for at least another 10 years.
Not really.

Just because a car shares a platform doesn't mean they will have the same engine. Manufacturers have mixed platforms and engines. Making some engines exclusive to specific models.

As mentioned by others, the Skyline 2.0T was pretty serious. Since the LFX is a pretty advanced engine, I doubt they will throw it away.

"Camaro with a 4 cyl 'just ain't right'" is tradition. Its just a name of a car. If the marketing is executed correctly, then people will buy it. I agree the V8 isn't going anywhere. Don't underestimate engineering.

I mean can you imagine the SS V8 in a lighter model?!!
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:36 AM   #31
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Our Sky Red line with the GMPP tune would eat out LLT hands down, and would even give our SS a good run. Never under estimate the 2.0T engines, GM knows how to build them right.
I had the cobbled for HHR Solstice/Sky GMPP tune on mine(auto). It was impressive when it wasn't in the shop for eating map sensors/reduced power mode. The LNF would rip if you could get the open ended transaxle to hook up.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:38 AM   #32
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Might as well just put pedals in the damn thing and make it a pedal car.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:42 AM   #33
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Might as well just put pedals in the damn thing and make it a pedal car.

Good idea that setup would get great gas mileage
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:48 AM   #34
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Good idea that setup would get great gas mileage
It would help America to lose the 'obese' stereotype too

(I'm not calling any Camaro owners fat or overweight)
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:54 AM   #35
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Might as well just put pedals in the damn thing and make it a pedal car.


Obviously you people aren't familiar with just how good GM's 2.0T is. There's a reason a lot of people prefer the ATS 2.0T over the more powerful LFX.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:02 PM   #36
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Obviously you people aren't familiar with just how good GM's 2.0T is. There's a reason a lot of people prefer the ATS 2.0T over the more powerful LFX.

O believe me I know but that doesn't mean I want one in a camaro. Put it in a Sonic, Impala, Malibu, and so on. I just fear the day I see a fart can on a Camaro. Like I said earlier as long as they make a big v8 as a option I'm happy.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:03 PM   #37
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The 2.0 turbo in the ats produces 272bhp in a 3400-3450 pound car.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:04 PM   #38
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All I'm saying is, I hope they keep the LLT in the line up AND offer this engine! If all we can get is the 4 cylinder, it will be a disappointment!
i thought the LLT is already out. don't all the current V6's have LFX engines?
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O believe me I know but that doesn't mean I want one in a camaro. Put it in a Sonic, Impala, Malibu, and so on. I just fear the day I see a fart can on a Camaro. Like I said earlier as long as they make a big v8 as a option I'm happy.
There will be still be a V8.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:23 PM   #40
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Obviously you people aren't familiar with just how good GM's 2.0T is. There's a reason a lot of people prefer the ATS 2.0T over the more powerful LFX.
There's little to no hope with the folks on this site anymore... the 5th gen is the best, most wonderfullest vehicle ever produced in the history of the Camaro platform and there's just absolutely no way possible that GM could ever improve upon the best vehicle GM ever made....... (troll face)

I welcome the idea of an I4. It's almost a given with the ATS. When the 5th generation was under development we all followed the CTS for clues to what the 5th gen powertrain would look like. Now it's the 6th gen with the ATS. I know a lot of you think the Camaro should only be produced with a v8, but that's why you guys aren't in business... your thinking is flat out wrong and would ruin the vehicle since the v8 sales alone wouldn't carry the vehicle line to profitability. The vehicle needs to be available to the masses and sell. If a 6th gen with an I4 comes out at a 17,000-19,000 price point (wishful thinking) then it opens the 6th gen to a whole new group of buyers and that's a good thing.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:33 PM   #41
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I wouldn't want one. I'm a neanderthal I guess but to me there has to be the option of an 8. I don't care if the 4 is 2 seconds faster in the quarter mile, the sound and feel of a pushrod 8 cannot be replicated in a turbo 4. I think even Porsche finally gave up on developing a turbo 4.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:39 PM   #42
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I guess I'm a Neanderthal also, and at the risk of being a troll: four-cylinder engines will always remind me of tractors.
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