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Old 12-03-2012, 09:00 AM   #1
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Post 6th Gen Camaro once again rumored with 2.0L turbo 4 cylinder variant

Going back as far as 2008, there have been rumors of a possible turbo 4 cylinder engine for the current Camaro. Even Bob Lutz, who was then the Vice Chairman of GM, alluded to the possibility for the 5th Gen Camaro at the time.

In the years since, the possibility of a turbo 4 cylinder for the next 6th gen Camaro has not only been floated as rumors, but also accepted as a very real possibility, especially as other auto companies have piled on to the forced induction bandwagon in an effort to increase fuel efficiency in the face of ever increasing MPG requirements.

GM Authority now claims that 'sources' (unnamed) have confirmed to them plans for a 2.0L turbocharged four cylinder for the 6th gen Camaro. The next Camaro is likely not due for 2-4 years, and will switch from its current Zeta platform to the smaller and lighter Alpha platform. The offering of a smaller/lighter and more efficient engine option for a smaller/lighter Camaro certainly makes sense.

High displacement fans shouldn't fret though, as the addition of a turbo 4 option doesn't mean that there will not also be V6 and V8 models, which we expect there to be.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:05 AM   #2
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Thank God I was one of the fortunate ones who got to pick up a brand new Camaro while they still look beautiful and got big cojones under the hood.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:12 AM   #3
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Thank God I was one of the fortunate ones who got to pick up a brand new Camaro while they still look beautiful and got big cojones under the hood.
And how do you know the next Camaro won't also look beautiful and also still have big cojones under the hood (albeit with the additional option for smaller/more efficient engines)? You don't.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:13 AM   #4
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WTF? I traded in my HHR SS for my Camaro. And now they're going to turn it into one?
At least it will be RWD like the Solstice/Skyy, and should be a fun ride if they can shave 500lbs off it.

There are some guys out there doing some incredible stuff with the Ecotec 2.0T. Mine would hang with the wife's LLT, no problem.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:16 AM   #5
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I've said it before, I don't really care HOW theymake the HP as longas the performance is still there.

I suspect that with the 6th Gen, it will be a tad smaller, a bit lighter, and I expect that the engine displacement will be less than the 5th Gens.

Where we have a V6 today,I suspect we'll see a turbo-4 giving us pretty much the same performance as the 6, and I suspect there will be a few V6 options, both NA and FI.

I have a suspicion that the V8's (LT4) will only be available in the 'ZL1' catagory of the 6th Gens.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:19 AM   #6
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And how do you know the next Camaro won't also look beautiful and also still have big cojones under the hood (albeit with the additional option for smaller/more efficient engines)? You don't.
True, but I am very happy with this body style and engine set up because I always liked the first gen' Camaro and dreamed of getting one someday. My 2010 is like a 1st gen' in a modernized package. Still it will be interesting to see what the 6th gen' will have to offer.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:22 AM   #7
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I think we should just wait and see what happens. I believe the V8 will still be in play...
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:26 AM   #8
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It failed miserably when Ford tried it with the Mustang back in the day. But if that's just a base engine and the LT1 Vette motor is still an option for the SS all should be fine. Especially, with that new light weight rumored about from the ATS Zeta platform. That new ATS rips pretty nicely for a base model Caddy. Dump in the LT1 motor and you have a low 12 high 11 second SS that should handle like it was on rails.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:31 AM   #9
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I wanna see pics...

I doubt GM/Chevy will get the engines wrong, but the design... that's another story, especially considering how much the Impala will be a non-selling visual disappointment :(

I have a sneaking suspicion they'll try to pass the Code 130r off as a Camaro :(
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:33 AM   #10
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WTF? I traded in my HHR SS for my Camaro. And now they're going to turn it into one?
At least it will be RWD like the Solstice/Skyy, and should be a fun ride if they can shave 500lbs off it.

There are some guys out there doing some incredible stuff with the Ecotec 2.0T. Mine would hang with the wife's LLT, no problem.

Our Sky Red line with the GMPP tune would eat out LLT hands down, and would even give our SS a good run. Never under estimate the 2.0T engines, GM knows how to build them right.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:34 AM   #11
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Regardless of the performance of a 2.0T, no one can deny a stigma exists with "4 cyl"
Many of us remember this...
http://www.time.com/time/specials/20...658527,00.html
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:36 AM   #12
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Next gen Camaro resides on Alpha which today has 2.0L Turbo... pretty much a foregone conclusion especially with fuel economy needs beyond 2015. I don't see the V8 going away in a Camaro for at least another 10 years.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:37 AM   #13
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Our Sky Red line with the GMPP tune would eat out LLT hands down, and would even give our SS a good run. Never under estimate the 2.0T engines, GM knows how to build them right.
really? thats pretty impressive.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:40 AM   #14
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And how do you know the next Camaro won't also look beautiful and also still have big cojones under the hood (albeit with the additional option for smaller/more efficient engines)? You don't.
if it looks anything like the ATS then the next gen Camaro has little hope...
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:42 AM   #15
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if it looks anything like the ATS then the next gen Camaro has little hope...
ATS's design has gotten nothing but praise from most of the automotive community. Just sayin'.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:45 AM   #16
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I'm fine with having a turbo 4 cylinder I just want a NA V-6 available as well and I don't want it to cost what an SS costs now. They will do fine with the body style. I love every generation they've made so far.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:23 AM   #17
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Forward thinking People. There are some impressive high powered 4cyl engines out there. It's the future. Embrace it!

You gotta admit how silly a big H2 looks driving down the road now. I half expect to see a caveman driving it!
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We will see how the new vet motor dose
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:38 AM   #19
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:40 AM   #20
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Sold a bolted 2.0 Cobalt SS LNF two summers ago. It was 360 whp/400 wtq and ran 60-100 mph in 4.6 sec. About 1.2 sec faster than this SS. It weighed 3k lbs though, not 3800.

Hard to launch & get traction on wrong wheel drive.

I think a turbo DI 6 would be ok in the Camaro. Should be 400 hp easily.
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This really worries me. The problem with the current V6 is weight, not power. 300 HP is great for the money. If the V6 lost about 300 pounds it would be a 13 second car out of the box without any power increase.

The ATS platform was a great sign that the V6 car would get that desired 300 pound diet. The ATS is what? 3400 pounds? And it is a Caddy so it is possible a V6 Camaro on the ATS platform could be as low as 3300 pounds.

A 400 pound diet definitely gets our V6 into 13s with no other mods!

BUT a turbo 4 cylinder, stock at least, is not going to be pushing out 300 hP. What will it make? 250-270?

We will get our diet, but also lose power. Making the 6th gen Ls/lt cars just as fast as the current 6.

And sure you can up the boost but how much boost do you think the engine will take?

And a boosted 3300 pound V6 LLT will be much faster than a boosted 3300 pound 4 banger.

All I'm saying is, I hope they keep the LLT in the line up AND offer this engine! If all we can get is the 4 cylinder, it will be a disappointment!
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It’s been the ongoing story around the collective automotive blogosphere that the next-generation Chevrolet Camaro will be both smaller and lighter, thanks to the vehicle’s adaptation to GM’s Alpha platform over the more rigid and heavier Zeta architecture it currently rides on. The downsizing will also reflect what’s going to happen in the engine bay, as sources have confirmed with us that a 2.0L turbocharged four cylinder engine will be found in the sixth-generation Camaro, which is still a few years out from launching.
The engine choice doesn’t surprise us, as the next Camaro shapes itself to be a more global performance car and has to adhere to countries that mandate displacement, and even CAFE fuel economy regulations here in the United States. It may be a one-size-fits-all approach, but it in no way means that there will not be a 300-something horsepower V6 or next-generation small block V8 in the lineup, either. And since the next Camaro will be smaller and lighter, it should still make for a fun drive no matter how many cylinders are under its hood.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:49 AM   #23
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It failed miserably when Ford tried it with the Mustang back in the day. But if that's just a base engine and the LT1 Vette motor is still an option for the SS all should be fine. Especially, with that new light weight rumored about from the ATS Zeta platform. That new ATS rips pretty nicely for a base model Caddy. Dump in the LT1 motor and you have a low 12 high 11 second SS that should handle like it was on rails.
I wouldn't say it failed in the Mustang. It was a good option at the time. The SVO turbo-4 in the 80's was actually faster then the GT's of the same year. Although, the V-8 where so restricted they were down in the 100hp range.
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I wouldn't say it failed in the Mustang. It was a good option at the time. The SVO turbo-4 in the 80's was actually faster then the GT's of the same year. Although, the V-8 where so restricted they were down in the 100hp range.
I agree - the 4 banger Mustang sold well back in the early 80's even though you could have made the car go faster by pushing it. GM's 2.0T is a great powerplant and I fully expect the 6th gen 4 banger to be superior in performance and gas mileage than the current 5th gen LT.

.....and of course the 6th gen will have an 8 available.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:19 AM   #25
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I think it would be a good thing for GM to offer the 4 liter turbo charged 2.0 engine in addition to the V6 and V8. Variety is what makes the world go round, but for me you can't get the V8 sound with a V6 or 4 cylinder engine.
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