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Old 07-26-2011, 10:39 PM   #69
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I wouldnt doubt that the 6th Gen comes out sooner than later. Who wants to buy a new car that has 10 year old styling. Might as well buy a 10 year old used car for cheaper. Also, car buyers today want innovation and as our cars become more technical than mechanical a model that is pressing 5 years old is beginning to become obsolete. I would rather see a 6th Gen sooner also so we don't see people becoming bored with Camaro styling as happened with the 4th Gen. I'm afraid the next time Camaro gets dropped from the line up we wont see it again.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:02 PM   #70
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I'll betch ya Klondike Bar your wrong. All logic points to a 2015 Gen6.
1) New Mustang in 2014 - most important
2) CAFE standards
3) Alpha platform needing to share costs across other models
4) Global appeal to other markets
REALLY? I find that hilarious, considering I left my job @ GM Design 2 months ago

Think about this...
1) MCE (Mid-Cycle Enhancements) aka "Facelifts" come a few years before brand new models.
2) GM still needs to market the new "C7" Corvette when they decide to release it. So far that is speculated to be around 2013-2014. They will not come out with both the next-gen Corvette and next-gen Camaro at the same time, as to give the Corvette the proper limelight.
3) ***** CLASSIFIED *****
4) ***** CLASSIFIED *****

As much as I'd love to share other details with you, I am contractually obligated not to do so. But just know that these vehicles take YEARS of development. And YEARS of sales to re-coup the hundreds of millions of investment dollars. Frankly, throwing away a Zeta-based Camaro after only 5 years just makes no business sense.

Hows that logic for ya? I'll PM you the address for that Klondike Bar LOL

Either way, I'm in no rush for a 6th-gen Camaro. The 5th-gen is still whoopin ass in the market place, and I'm still LOVING mine!
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:10 PM   #71
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I hope it is FI. My last car is FI and I got 27-30mpg in stop and go traffic. It sees almost all traffic mileage. Really blew me away. When you get on it, it really gets moving especially when your car is 2800lbs. You can't replace the sound of a V8, but I can sure live with better MPG over sound.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:20 PM   #72
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I didn't read beyond the first post.............

Funny thing: I've never seen ANYONE from Automotive News in any product planning session..............................


not one person!
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:21 PM   #73
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I didn't read beyond the first post.............

Funny thing: I've never seen ANYONE from Automotive News in any product planning session..............................


not one person!


Good enough for me. LOL

But, wait...... couldn't they have heard from someone?
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:23 PM   #74
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I didn't read beyond the first post.............

Funny thing: I've never seen ANYONE from Automotive News in any product planning session..............................


not one person!
SEE ?!?!?!?

If you dont believe me, then please believe Scott.

When auto journalists dont have news to report, they make it up. PERIOD.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:40 PM   #75
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nice update, they said its going to be smaller and i am guessing its going to be lighter as well. 2015 is a long way away a lot could change by then. this is probably my last camaro i will buy for a while. probs going with M power performance next. but i will all ways be interested in what is going on with the camaros.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:50 PM   #76
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To me, NASCAR has broken this ground pounding out 700 hp race cars fueled with E85. I think this may be the answer to CAFE restrictions.
The answer to CAFE restrictions is to eliminate CAFE dictates, and the illegitimate federal bureaucracies that enforce CAFE, and other aspects of the auto industry, that nearly destroyed the industry (GM, bankrupt, Chrysler, bankrupt).
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:52 PM   #77
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Good enough for me. LOL

But, wait...... couldn't they have heard from someone?
I love quoting myself!

"Those who talk don't know, because those who know...don't talk."

I noticed when reading through that nifty little information snippet...that the part about Alpha read a lot like a pure assumption. As though their "sources" (see above) couldn't say more than "new version in 2014" and they extrapolated from there....Is it entirely out of the question to expect a less drastic change to the Camaro? I mean, it'd be barely 4 years old in 2014...a little early for a ground-up, brand-new model, imo.....especially after they just finished doing that exact same thing in 2009...

Just my .02.

I love the rumormill. It's been a long time....


OH...and before I forget...there's no evidence whatsoever to support the notion that the V8 will disappear. Get more expensive, used in less models? Sure. Although even that doesn't mean performance will suffer at all. But keep the faith that where there's a Camaro - there'll be a V8.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:52 PM   #78
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this is still 4 years away....too much time ahead to even speculate
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:53 PM   #79
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nice update, they said its going to be smaller and i am guessing its going to be lighter as well. 2015 is a long way away a lot could change by then. this is probably my last camaro i will buy for a while. probs going with M power performance next. but i will all ways be interested in what is going on with the camaros.


I'm looking at getting a white Yamaha R6 this year so I have another toy to play around with. Also looking at a 08 CTS-V down the road, this Camaro will be my last for awhile. Definitely my last BLACK car, ever.
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:07 AM   #80
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Offer me a turbocharged *anything* from corporate GM and I'm all over it.

But,

Make it at least a six cylinder engine. Turbo Camaro, AKA "SSX", do I see another Buick GN car-like creature?

Absolutely.

Hint to Corvette: You're gonna need a turbo....and don't forget, the very first Corvette was in fact a six cylinder.

The playing field was tilted when GM put the 3.8L turbocharged intercooled engine in the lineup...if you can remember, it was the fastest US production car in those years (86-87) and yep, even quicker than the treasured 'Vette.

Do it again GM - c'mon, do it again.
Couldnt agree with you more...... syclone caugh caugh typhoon? grand national....all done in the 80's imagine the precision of the times now and a knarly turbo app.

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Old 07-27-2011, 12:09 AM   #81
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I love quoting myself!

"Those who talk don't know, because those who know...don't talk."

I noticed when reading through that nifty little information snippet...that the part about Alpha read a lot like a pure assumption. As though their "sources" (see above) couldn't say more than "new version in 2014" and they extrapolated from there....Is it entirely out of the question to expect a less drastic change to the Camaro? I mean, it'd be barely 4 years old in 2014...a little early for a ground-up, brand-new model, imo.....especially after they just finished doing that exact same thing in 2009...

Just my .02.

I love the rumormill. It's been a long time....


OH...and before I forget...there's no evidence whatsoever to support the notion that the V8 will disappear. Get more expensive, used in less models? Sure. Although even that doesn't mean performance will suffer at all. But keep the faith that where there's a Camaro - there'll be a V8.
Yer so sensible.

Sometimes 'common' makes the most sense............ Dude, no shit, I just made that up.
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:11 AM   #82
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Yer so sensible.

Sometimes 'common' makes the most sense............ Dude, no shit, I just made that up.
We should go into desk-calendar writing together. Make up quotes for each day...

NO, DUDE - Fortune Cookies!!
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:31 AM   #84
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A smaller & lighter car, would also allow for smaller size engine and it all adds up to less cost, better price for the car. GM is working a new performance engine for the Vette and Camaro that will compete with European engines. And that will be in the 6th gen. A small V8, high revving Turbo... :-)
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I'm totally playin those lotto numbers!!
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