05-19-2024, 11:58 PM | #1 |
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Procharger IAT’s
Anyone close to maxing out their D1x? i’ve talked to the tuner about it and he wants to try either going air to water or putting some nitrous in-line with the procharger to help cool down the air and obviously get some more power. we would really like to make 1k wheel. We also discussed a meth kit but he isn’t a big fan of meth because if anything goes wrong it could be catastrophic. at least with nitrous we know what we’re getting into. The main issue right now is just how hot the temps are, i can’t remember at this moment, but it’s hot enough to cause pre det and pull timing.
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05-20-2024, 08:46 AM | #2 |
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What are the temps? Is it actually showing knock in the log or just pulling timing due to reaching a specific IAT temperature?
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05-20-2024, 12:41 PM | #3 |
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With my tune I primarily use meth for cooling. And you can see in the log right when the meth kicks in as the IAT's definitely go down.
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05-20-2024, 04:05 PM | #4 |
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as soon as i get to my computer i can check and see what the temps are. But it should just be showing knock. we have it set up to read when knock retard occurs, and the CEL does the blinking thing until it sits for a second which if i’m not mistaken is a symptom of knock
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05-20-2024, 04:08 PM | #5 |
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What pulley are you running and what psi do you see? i think the main reason my guy wants to go with nitrous is because we’re maxed out on blower rpm, but still want to make a good bit more power
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05-20-2024, 04:25 PM | #6 |
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Nitrous is good for making power. Not that great at absorbing heat to cool intake charge. If you’re trying to make x amount of power without spinning the blower to a point it’s just pumping heat it makes sense. If you’re not going to slow the blower down nitrous could just make the situation worse.
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05-20-2024, 06:45 PM | #7 |
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I went down this road with my old 2.9 Whipple…if your blower is out of steam it’s time for a better blower that will operate at your desired airflow level in a much better efficiency island on the compressor map. I gained 104 WHP using the same pulley combo just by changing the blower to the new 3.0 Whipple. Band aids just don’t cut it in my humble opinion and you’ll be kicking yourself down the road for not just upgrading right now.
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05-21-2024, 07:55 AM | #8 | |
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A friends built H/C P1x car is making 822whp @ 14psi and it doesn't knock on E50 with IAT pushing 165. I have 22-23 degrees of timing in it. But then again if the OP has the same size race intercooler, the bigger supercharger is going to produce hotter IAT's pushing another 170whp. With the PD stuff, the IC bricks are also upgraded. I believe the 3.0 has larger bricks than the 2.9. Moral of the story, Liquid cooling is better at keeping temps down during a hard pull, Air to Air has better recovery time post pull.
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05-21-2024, 08:42 AM | #9 |
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Getting detonation and trusting the knock sensors to save the motor is going to break something.
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Now the kicker is, if your tuner goes into the tune and starts messing with all that shit by decreasing sensitivity, max retard, zero out burst knock, then you for sure don't want to be seeing any knock in the tune.
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I don’t really wanna be dealing with meth though cause i’d rather just fill a nitrous bottle cause i have a local guy who sells it. That’s where the idea of just running nitrous with the blower came into play but we haven’t really discussed it much further than that. If i did do that would you suggest a wet or dry kit? And would i just tap it into the charge pipe before the maf of what?
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