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Old 04-02-2023, 11:15 AM   #15
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If they really want it they’ll take it from you so I wouldn’t stress too much about it. Keep it parked in a garage, live in a state with constitutional carry laws, get Hagerty with a set value for a rainy day, and be aware of your surroundings if traveling. Other than that just drive it like you stole it!
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Old 04-02-2023, 11:45 AM   #16
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Old 04-02-2023, 11:50 AM   #17
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I guess if you want to take it to the extreme, you could advocate for people to open carry in their cars. I wouldn't suggest it as whats a car worth for someone's life?
A lot of years worth of time working and saving to own a car has value and is worth protecting. The car-thief criminals who has no regard for my life, and who might take my life to steal my car, means nothing to me and his life has zero value. What's your life worth?
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Old 04-02-2023, 01:02 PM   #18
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Much of what has been posted is actually "serious"...

Part of why I bought an M6 is because it drastically reduces the population of people that can drive it. This includes not only thieves, but "buddies" that want to try it out as well.

The Club can help to ward off joyriders, but only if your car is parked next a bunch of others that are equally easy/difficult to steal. It will not stop someone from stealing your car if they want -your- car.

Locking lug nuts are similar but maybe not even as good because where do you keep the key? Oh yeah, in the car.

Keeping the interior of the car clean and empty does pretty much nothing to prevent its theft - it only deters someone from breaking a window or similar to steal what's IN the car.

While being aware of how to reduce additional risk in areas where you park the car, there is little that can be done to reduce the risk from the largest aspect - location. Aside from not driving the car to work, for example, you have no choice but to park where you're allowed. And, at home, you have no control over the neighborhood and similar. Again, if someone wants -your- car, they will simply come and take it, by force if necessary.

Keeping your keys inside of a faraday box/cage or similar can also help, but again.... if they want YOUR car, they are following you and will trap the signals when you use the fob to lock/unlock the car.

In the end, if they genuinely want your car, the simplest thing for them to do is follow you and carjack you. None of what has been suggested protects against that, but the M6 option does have the possibility of reducing the chance of them actually getting away with the car.
That would be a very poor decision, probably terminally poor.

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Telling automatic owners they should of bought a manual isn't very helpful. To your point, you can't stop someone from stealing your car if they truly want it. My suggestions were to the average American that wants to deter and put themselves in the best position for their cars not to get stolen. I guess if you want to take it to the extreme, you could advocate for people to open carry in their cars. I wouldn't suggest it as whats a car worth for someone's life?
That's a question the carjacker should ask themselves before attempting to take someone's car. Speaking only for myself I'm not open to being carjacked and I always carry when I'm not at home. I would view that as an attempt on my life and respond in a very unfriendly way.

I agree with some of the other's on this thread. My m6 is definitely a theft deterrent.

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Old 04-02-2023, 02:15 PM   #19
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Old 04-02-2023, 02:23 PM   #20
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Old 04-02-2023, 03:44 PM   #21
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How about a steering wheel lock like this.

https://www.amazon.com/Tevlaphee-Ste...st_sto_dp&th=1

Or a wheel boot.

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There are many brands out there. I just picked these for illustration.
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Old 04-02-2023, 04:34 PM   #22
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Keeping your keys inside of a faraday box/cage or similar can also help, but again.... if they want YOUR car, they are following you and will trap the signals when you use the fob to lock/unlock the car.
That won't work with rolling code keyless entry systems like the Camaro has. They need to have an antenna and repeater in place to grab the keyfob's signal at the moment they want to unlock/start the car which is not possible if the fob is in a faraday box/pouch. Alternatively, you can separate the keyfob before going to sleep so the battery isn't powering it overnight.

Also when parking in public back up against a light pole or something then set the parking brake and leave it in gear if M6 so if they try to steal it with a tow truck they can't simply lift the rear wheels and drive off.
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Old 04-02-2023, 04:38 PM   #23
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That won't work with rolling code keyless entry systems like the Camaro has. They need to have an antenna and repeater in place to grab the keyfob's signal at the moment they want to unlock/start the car which is not possible if the fob is in a faraday box/pouch. Alternatively, you can separate the keyfob before going to sleep so the battery isn't powering it overnight.

Also when parking in public back up against a light pole or something then set the parking brake and leave it in gear if M6 so if they try to steal it with a tow truck they can't simply lift the rear wheels and drive off.
The fob wouldn't be in a faraday cage/box when you're trying to lock or unlock the car, though. And that's when they can trap the signal.

As for the parking brake thing, that's not really going to stop them either... Put dollies under the wheels. Also, since the Camaro really can't be towed (needs to be flat-bedded), the simplest solution will be to drag it onto a flatbed. Tires are cheap and easy to replace.
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Old 04-02-2023, 04:42 PM   #24
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Locking lug nuts are similar but maybe not even as good because where do you keep the key? Oh yeah, in the car.
If you keep the lug nut key in the locked glove box a thief would have to break the window and pick the glovebox lock without opening the door to avoid setting off the alarm.

Glass break sensors can also be added to car alarm systems...idk if the Camaro's alarm system comes with one from the factory.

For the garage:

No windows or doors with windows. At least one camera (preferably 2+) that record to the cloud or inside the house.

Most importantly zip tie the garage door emergency release and buy a designated pair of scissors placed in an easy to see nearby location so you can quickly cut the zip tie in the event of an actual emergency. Or buy a more expensive shield/guard instead of the zip tie.
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Old 04-02-2023, 04:53 PM   #25
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The fob wouldn't be in a faraday cage/box when you're trying to lock or unlock the car, though. And that's when they can trap the signal.

As for the parking brake thing, that's not really going to stop them either... Put dollies under the wheels. Also, since the Camaro really can't be towed (needs to be flat-bedded), the simplest solution will be to drag it onto a flatbed. Tires are cheap and easy to replace.
Dragging locked rear tires across pavement is loud and could attract witnesses. I park the car near my hotel room window so I might wake up and call 911 and get a license plate if someone tries to steal my car this way. Good point on the dollies but a tilt sensor would set off the alarm when they jacked up the car to place the dollies.

You're incorrect about trapping the lock/unlock signal. Replaying the same code trapped in the past would do nothing because of the rolling code technology.
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Old 04-02-2023, 05:08 PM   #26
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Also pages 9-10 of the 2022 manual has a way to disable RKE (remote keyless entry) so a thief would have to pop the cap off of the physical lock cylinder and pick the lock to get in without breaking a window and if they attempted to start the car using the repeater the alarm would go off.

Disabling Keyless Unlocking: With the vehicle off, press and hold lock and unlock on the RKE transmitter at the same time for approximately three seconds. The turn signal lamps will flash four times quickly to indicate access is disabled. Using any exterior handle to unlock the doors or open the trunk will cause the turn signal lamps to flash four times quickly, indicating access is disabled. If disabled, disarm the alarm system (press the unlock button on the keyfob) before starting the vehicle. Disabling Keyless Unlocking may also be configured under Vehicle Personalization 0 105.

I don't see any mention of a glass break sensor in the alarm section of the manual.
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Old 04-02-2023, 05:16 PM   #27
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I guess I'll take the first serious stab at responding to the OP.
I love that you think responding with "M6" isn't a serious answer. It is 100% serious. It's one of the benefits of driving a manual. It is built in deterrent. Yes there are people that could steal it, but your average thief is a moron or a joyrider. They haven't bothered with learning manual. In the US, manual cars are mostly for enthusiasts. So getting an M6 with the back-of-my-mind though that this is a some extra security is 100% a serious response.
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Old 04-02-2023, 05:19 PM   #28
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I like this idea, but you could even take it a step further and purposely blow a fuse that's the same rating as the fuel pump fuse and swap the blown fuse in so it isn't visually obvious what's wrong when looking at the fuse box diagram. Also move spare fuses from the fuse box to the locked glove box.
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