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SilverSS3108 · 07-14-2011, 12:56 PM

How do y'all think a 550hp cam & heads SS will hang with the stock 550hp ZL1? Reeaaddyy.... GO!

BigDan · 07-14-2011, 01:18 PM

Depends if its from a dig or roll since the stock SS suspension was never designed to hook up 550hp.

Jayrcr3 · 07-14-2011, 01:35 PM

I think the torque from the LSA wins out, but it would be close I suspect. I also agree that its going to depend on how well the ZL1 hooks up.

ShnOmac · 07-14-2011, 01:49 PM

It wont...

SilverSS3108 · 07-14-2011, 02:09 PM

I agree and disagree... I think they'll hook about the same and I think the ZL1 will pull on the start but I think the SS will reel it in at the end.

steeleshark2 · 07-14-2011, 02:36 PM

I cannot wait to try one with my setup.

8cd03gro · 07-14-2011, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSS3108

I agree and disagree... I think they'll hook about the same and I think the ZL1 will pull on the start but I think the SS will reel it in at the end.

The zl1 will most definitely hook better. I'm assuming it will, at the very least, have a stiffer set of control arms and wider tires.

stikSS · 07-14-2011, 02:50 PM

I think it would be a decent showdown, but I'm thinking The torque will pull thru as stated above.

And personally I'm thinking that the ZL is gonna be closer to the 600hp range.... that's solely based on the comment made by Engineer Oppenheiser in Oshawa last month....

Sent from my EVO 4G

Black5thgen · 07-14-2011, 02:50 PM

I think the ZL1 will win in a quarter mile. From a roll the SS may have the advantage due to weight. I think the suspension and torque favors the ZL1 by a good bit. Not to mention the ZL1 has wider tires that will hook a lot better than a P-Zero.

SilverSS3108 · 07-14-2011, 02:54 PM

Hmm... But does everyone agree that on a 1/4 mile track neither will just stomp the other?

SGOS252382 · 07-14-2011, 02:58 PM

If both cars are making the same RWHP, the SS should have the advantage due to its lower weight.

But a drag race between two closely matched cars comes down to traction off the line. So the car with the better wheel/tire setup should win the drag race.

Bad70supreme · 07-14-2011, 02:59 PM

I think on a 1/4 mile the ZL1 would take it, I think the ZL1 is going hook pretty hard compared to an SS, add the torque from the LSA, better tires, much better suspension and 0-60 and 60ft is going to be much better. Now add tires to the SS and things will get much closer, because I think that the H/C combo will pull harder in the top end then a stock LSA even at 600hp the H/C SS would win from a roll.

Black5thgen · 07-14-2011, 03:12 PM

Unless you're running a stroker, an N/A cammed car won't make the torque of a roots style charged car. They can have the same RWHP and have a gap as big as 50 ft.lbs. on torque. That's what will win a 1/4 mile and stop light race. OP, I think it will be close. Maybe a couple tenths or so.

SGOS252382 · 07-14-2011, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Unless you're running a stroker, an N/A cammed car won't make the torque of a roots style charged car. They can have the same RWHP and have a gap as big as 50 ft.lbs. on torque. That's what will win a 1/4 mile and stop light race. OP, I think it will be close. Maybe a couple tenths or so.

Agreed, but that could be a disadvantage running street tires.

07-14-2011, 12:56 PM	#1
SilverSS3108 Drives: 2010 silver SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midland TX Posts: 1,063	ZL1 VS. SS How do y'all think a 550hp cam & heads SS will hang with the stock 550hp ZL1? Reeaaddyy.... GO! __________________ 2012 Corvette Grandsport... TSP headers, Borla S-Type, BTR Stage 3 N/A cam, Halltech Super Bee MF108

07-14-2011, 01:35 PM	#3
Jayrcr3 Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chatham, Illinois Posts: 756	I think the torque from the LSA wins out, but it would be close I suspect. I also agree that its going to depend on how well the ZL1 hooks up. __________________ American Racing 1 7/8" Headers and Hi-Flow Cats, CAI cold air intake, Flowmaster AT exhaust, Vengeance Racing Stage 2 cam, VMax ported throttle body, TEA valve springs and titanium retainers, Trick Flow hardened pushrods, 180* T-stat, Comp Trunion kit, ZL1 Fuel Pump, ADM Fuel Pump Control Module, 20% window tint, Whipple Supercharger. Tuned by Mike Norris Motorsports. 656rwhp/584rwtq @10 PSI.

07-14-2011, 02:09 PM	#5
SilverSS3108 Drives: 2010 silver SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midland TX Posts: 1,063	I agree and disagree... I think they'll hook about the same and I think the ZL1 will pull on the start but I think the SS will reel it in at the end. __________________ 2012 Corvette Grandsport... TSP headers, Borla S-Type, BTR Stage 3 N/A cam, Halltech Super Bee MF108

07-14-2011, 02:36 PM	#6
steeleshark2 Drives: 2010 Transformer 1SS Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kingsland, Ga Posts: 2,553 View My Garage	I cannot wait to try one with my setup. __________________ Build page:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...77#post3083477

07-14-2011, 02:50 PM	#8
stikSS 9691 & 97586 Drives: 2010 SS, 1999 SS, 1993 Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sanford, NC Posts: 2,814 View My Garage	I think it would be a decent showdown, but I'm thinking The torque will pull thru as stated above. And personally I'm thinking that the ZL is gonna be closer to the 600hp range.... that's solely based on the comment made by Engineer Oppenheiser in Oshawa last month.... Sent from my EVO 4G __________________ http://www.camarosouth.com camarosouth@hotmail.com

07-14-2011, 01:18 PM	#2
BigDan Drives: bug Join Date: May 2009 Location: nv Posts: 1,319	Depends if its from a dig or roll since the stock SS suspension was never designed to hook up 550hp.

07-14-2011, 01:49 PM	#4
ShnOmac Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 13,313	It wont...

07-14-2011, 02:50 PM	#9
Black5thgen Account Suspended Drives: 2007 C6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 2,251 View My Garage	I think the ZL1 will win in a quarter mile. From a roll the SS may have the advantage due to weight. I think the suspension and torque favors the ZL1 by a good bit. Not to mention the ZL1 has wider tires that will hook a lot better than a P-Zero.

07-14-2011, 02:54 PM	#10
SilverSS3108 Drives: 2010 silver SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midland TX Posts: 1,063	Hmm... But does everyone agree that on a 1/4 mile track neither will just stomp the other? __________________ 2012 Corvette Grandsport... TSP headers, Borla S-Type, BTR Stage 3 N/A cam, Halltech Super Bee MF108

07-14-2011, 02:58 PM	#11
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	If both cars are making the same RWHP, the SS should have the advantage due to its lower weight. But a drag race between two closely matched cars comes down to traction off the line. So the car with the better wheel/tire setup should win the drag race.

07-14-2011, 02:59 PM	#12
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	I think on a 1/4 mile the ZL1 would take it, I think the ZL1 is going hook pretty hard compared to an SS, add the torque from the LSA, better tires, much better suspension and 0-60 and 60ft is going to be much better. Now add tires to the SS and things will get much closer, because I think that the H/C combo will pull harder in the top end then a stock LSA even at 600hp the H/C SS would win from a roll. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

07-14-2011, 03:12 PM	#13
Black5thgen Account Suspended Drives: 2007 C6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 2,251 View My Garage	Unless you're running a stroker, an N/A cammed car won't make the torque of a roots style charged car. They can have the same RWHP and have a gap as big as 50 ft.lbs. on torque. That's what will win a 1/4 mile and stop light race. OP, I think it will be close. Maybe a couple tenths or so.

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