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Old 10-22-2013, 02:44 PM   #134
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Originally Posted by ssrs396 View Post
It seems that is a lot of venting for rear brakes...lol. Your vents give the car a mid engine look and I think the vents would be better served up front to get heat out of the engine bay. With that being said I really like them. They are simple and clean yet give the car a more racy look. The suggestion of them being curved I think doesn't work. I have tried several different curved vents in back and the car just seems to like the straight lines better.

It reminds me of 80s Ferraris in a lot of ways which is clean straight lines with some curves thrown in. Your design has a feel of going backwards in design yet looks fresh. This is due entirely of modern design going all bangle. I never liked that look except on some cars but it seems all automakers are using that design language. Thanks for trying something different.
These vents aren't just for brakes. In addition to brake cooling my concept calls for the transmission and differential coolers to be back there too; one for each side. This makes for a much shorter plumbing run for the coolers and moves the weight from the very front of the car (where you don't want it) to the back axle which would help with overall weight balance. The shorter lines would also weigh less and require less coolant which would save weight.

If you played with the vent styles like I have, then you do understand why I settled on this particular design. This is a no-frills performance design; not a show car design.

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As long as its not as bad of a design transition like the ford explorer.Good job on the new camaro draft. Did you use solidworks?
Thank you! No I'm using Maxon's Cinema 4D. It's an old version I bought about 11 years ago but never got around to using. Surprisingly it runs and works quite well on my 2009 iMac. It's really top-notch software... I just wish I could afford the top-notch pricing of the newest version lol.

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I also would like something like this.
You know I've spent some time looking into a front vent like that and I've decided not to go that route for several reasons. One, the engine compartment heat would vent out the top anyways (heat rises) so in addition to a working hood vent system, I'm also looking into a fender vent system of some kind. Two, since I started thinking about it I've been looking at other cars on the road and I've seen that front side-vent style used heavily on Dodge cars, and a LOT of other cars have variations on that theme including the new Stingray. Because it's so "trendy" and I don't think actually does all that much, I'm not going that route to help keep this Camaro design looking unique and more purposeful. (Don't take that personally; I know you've really been set on a side vent of some kind. I could probably put whatever design you think would look good on a version and do some renderings for you if you want to have them for wallpapers or something.)

This concept isn't designed for market trends; it's designed for function, for power, for aerodynamics and to be a sleek, solid, bold American design that doesn't look like a wannabe anything. This is a Camaro... 'nuff said.

And now for some revisions...

I made a complete duplicate of the original project file and I'm playing with some variations. For this version I've gone with my original idea of the rear fender flowing almost straight into the rear winglets. I've lowered the hood bulge profile to make the front of the car look less bulky. A lot of little tweaks and adjustments to make the overall car look more unified and less like a 3-piece design with the front, middle and back not feeling quite like they're connected. I think this was what some commenters were seeing when they were saying that the side view looked "off" somehow.

Here you can see on this white rendering the new rear fender line.

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This render shows the front with the less bulky hood.

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And of course, Blue Angel next generation. (It took quite awhile to figure out how to get the right color blue enamel-look but this is pretty close!)

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I think the outside of the car is just about done. The hood vent system and door handles are next and that's about it for the outside. Now I need to put in a steering wheel and get something going for the dash and interior.

Then after all that's done, start working on wings and aero pieces for the Z/28.
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