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Originally Posted by fielderLS3
You are being optimistic with 330-340hp, and on your displacement estimate. If it happens, it will most likely be a 2.0L in the 270 range or so, because the whole point of having this engine will be fuel economy, and a larger displacement, highly tuned version would defeat that purpose.
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Why is that optimistic? The Mustang is already confirmed to be getting a 2.3l so I can't see why we should assume the Camaro wouldn't see an engine of comparable displacement.
As for power, all roads point to the 2.3 in the Mustang making over 300HP since the same engine is anticipated to make over 320HP in the next Focus RS. Everyone is expecting over 300 from the ecoboost 4 so shouldn't we expect similar #s from GM? More power in a turbo engine doesn't necessarily mean less fuel efficiency in normal driving because when cruising the bypass valve is open and the car is out of boost. Until you get into boost, the tune for a given engine with a 16g and with a 30r will be almost identical despite the second doubling the power output of the first once in boost.
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Originally Posted by fielderLS3
And yes, as others have said, an Evo and Subaru WRX are fast at the track...but those are $30-$40K cars. They are not comparable to a base Camaro, but to the Camaro SS, (both on price and fuel efficiency). If those engines really were that great, they wouldn't have to be in significantly smaller, lighter cars with significantly more dollars spent on the chassis, just to break even with the Camaro performance wise.
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The evo and wrx have poor fuel efficiency because they have full time all wheel drive with multiple differentials and their gearing is stupid short. That's also why those sedans are able to compete on track with much more powerful cars. Their engines are pretty outdated though, the Subaru motor has remained pretty much the same since before the 2005 Mustang was released and the first Transformers movie.
Look at the Hyundai Genesis turbo for gods sake, it gets 31mpg highway with a 274hp 2.0l turbo weighing in at 3,500lb and doesn't even utilize DI which would help in both output and efficiency. You don't think by 2015-2016 that Ford and GM will be able to top 300hp with DI turbo engines, probably with larger displacement? DI alone could bump that Hyundai engine to 300hp. HYUNDAI! I think you are underestimating GM and Ford
big time.