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Originally Posted by attymf

Just an after thought. Since the new frame is gonna be a rwd and awd frame and that the XTS Caddy can be a V6TT AWD do you think Chevy may offer the Camaro in an AWD TT. Would be a nice addition/competitor to the Subarus and other awd cars.
Kinda could get into an AWD Automatic TT Camaro. Would make for some very consistant ET's!

Remember GMs AWD is not an Audi like Full Time system. It's not a performance enahancer it's a "I can drive it in the winter system." Think of it like this.....the CTS V-Sport does not offer AWD.

Originally Posted by hiddenangels89

I'm willing to bet my annual pay they wouldn't make an AWD Camaro.

kinda brings me into the light of the CERV II, Mid Engine... AWD.... V8... mmm... imagine what they could do today... off topic..

Careful on that wager. I can see them offering a V6 or 4 cylinder (if there is one) with AWD to make the Camaro a great 4 season coupe. Might even be a competitive advantage and easy to do since Alpha supports AWD.

Originally Posted by 2014v6

ttv6... power of the v8 and the gas millage would be awesome...

Better define Awesome for me. I don't consider the CTS V-Sport FE as awesome. V-sport is 16/24 about the same as today's SS.

Originally Posted by attymf

I'd like an 8 speed automatic AWD TT V6

AWD is for winter only. GM does not have Full Time AWD.

Originally Posted by DSX_Camaro

I think a V8 would be cool if it was actually DOHC and you could get extreme VVT gains out of it. But no, an instant-torque boosted V6 will outstrip the V8 model by lengths. Yes, you could modify the V8 "further" but you could always just up the fuel and boost and, again, whoop V8s.

Plus the TTV6 would get killer mileage.

Is "killer" mileage better than "awesome"? Again CTS V-Sport isn't awesome or killer IMO. 16/24 isn't killer or awesome. It's equal to the SS today.

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

If that was the case, the LF3 would get better mileage than the LS3 but it doesn't. I doubt a TTV6 would beat the LT1 in power, torque and mileage.

Agreed.......at least for the C7 which has way better aero.

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I personally would like to see 4 engine choices for a 2016 F body.

2.0T LTG that makes about 300HP/300TQ. This would be the base model.

TT 3.6 LF3 420HP/430TQ. This would be a upgrade over base model.

6.2 LT1 460HP/465TQ for the SS model.

6.2 LT4 625HP/635TQ for the ZL1.

One thing to remember guys is if the car gets put on the ATS platform(which it better) there should be no reason why the SS should be over 3600lbs, with the base model not exceeding 3400lbs. Should make for some fun cars that would still be really fuel efficient. I think with the above engine choices built on ATS platforms the Camaro would certainly reign supreme over the competition.

There is every reason why it will be over 3600 pounds called reality. Not poking at you but a lot of folks are simply hoping. The V8 and drivetrain alone will add several hundred pounds over an ATS. And if you want the premium materials the ATS uses the be prepared to pay more money.

Everyone that hopes your number is true (and I hope it is too) start with the assumption that the Camaro will weigh even less than an ATS.

For starters unless you want 18 inch wheels as your largest choice you will be adding weight to handle the chassis loads. 18s are as big as you can get on an ATS.

Originally Posted by Muscle Car Lover

Twin turbo is sick, more so with AWD.

Still, I guess I am a purist, or what not, but the character of this car and the history has been the fabled V-8. The legendary small block V-8 with push rods, I mean strip that away and is it really a Camaro? Things evolve and change and as I get older I see it more all the time. Progress? Depends on definition.

Can a GM TT V-6 out gun an import doing the same? No. It can try it for less no doubt and gain plenty of support. Multi-valve and overhead cams? Sure, but why buy a Camaro? All this "new" tech exists and has for some time. You can buy one tomorrow in lots of models.

I am not against performance, efficiency, and bottom line numbers (drag strip/road course/etc). I just believe in my heart the Camaro (and the Corvette) are singular American icons. They not only stand for something, they ARE something. Maybe it's not tangible. Maybe I cannot express it well here in writing. Maybe only us in the older than 35 bracket even know what I am talking about. Maybe I am an idiot, distinct possibility!

Very glad my 2014 Camaro is in process. A dream car for me, one I always wanted.

AWD in current GM configuration does nothing but add 200 pounds and better wet road/snow driving.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Not even close to topped out. They are getting the caddys above 400 rwhp just with a tune.

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From the factory is what counts. Almost no one re calibrates their car. Only people who go on enthusiast web sites are willing to give up the warranty on a car.

Originally Posted by Muscle Car Lover

Guys really? Strap a Pratt-Whitney jet engine to the back, man I hate all this mod talk sometimes. If you want the ultimate, then just buy the ultimate.

This is the Camaro forum. If the 6th gen can drop say 500-600 pounds and get to a 7/8th size of what it is now, I would consider it. Do twin turbos, make it silly and I will keep my incoming 2014 until it blows up.

Again hopeful weight loss targets. Maybe for a 4 cylinder base car but an SS with a V8 won't be below 3600 pounds. I hope it does but that will mean premium materials and big $$.

Originally Posted by MikeT

And of course 500-600 pounds and 7/8th size are never happening. But how 'bout a 10% haircut? 375 lbs and 9/10th size? Achievable? Frankly, I'd love a Camaro like that... even with a NA V6.

Agree