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Originally Posted by shaffe
All depends on what route they go IMO. If they go just after the ZL1, you can bet that it will be in the same price range. Might be a tad higher, might be around the same. I think Ford knows what the price range for these car is.
Again I go to the 350R and Z/28, Ford set the MSRP of the 350R 12k less than the Z/28, it bested it in head to head comparison on same day same track. Had a engine completely unique to it, carbon fiber wheels, and Ford's first use of Magneride suspension. Some pretty high dollar stuff, and they still undercut the car they built it to go against by 12K.
Now why in the next battle do we think they can't offer similar/better performance for the same/similar dollar amount? Why all of sudden is it there is no way they can do it and the car will have to start in the 70s?
If they go my second route then we will see and all bets are off.
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Well, I am not sure that is the most appropriate comparison. We are not even talking the same Gen when we look at Z28 v GT350R. R has no DSSV dampers, which are WAY more expensive than mag ride. Carbon ceramic breaks etc. The Z28 was an attempt to take that dated platform as far as it could go, and being as dated as it was it required massive tech to accomplish this.
The GT350R was designed ground up on a more sophisticated chassis. I just do not see a reason this argument is so important to the Mustang guys. I know for some weird reason Ford decided to chase an extinct car with the R, but that doesn't make it legit in any world but Ford World.
We're talking Gen 6 here, so what GM did on Gen 5 and how much it cost Ford to chase an extinct Gen 5 car isnt relevant in discussions on what it will cost Ford to chase an in production car like the 6th gen ZL1 or the ZL1 1LE.
So that is why I dont see them doing it for less than $70K. This time they are deciding(yet to see) to be competitive in the existing Generation and that is, for obvious reasons, more difficult than trying to compete with the last generation thats no longer in production.
In my opinion, chasing the Z28 with their new platform was low hanging fruit, that really only impressed the Blue Oval guys. We are no longer talking Gen 6 v Gen 5 comparisons, everyone else had already moved on from the Gen 5 Z28 by then.