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Old 07-30-2013, 09:26 PM   #736
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Originally Posted by KMPrenger View Post
Here are exact curb weights

2.5L RWD / Auto – (3315/ 1503)
2.0 Turbo RWD / Auto – (3373/ 1530)
2.0 Turbo RWD / Man – (3403/ 1543)
2.0 Turbo AWD / Auto – (3543 / 1607)
3.6L RWD / Auto – (3461/ 1570)
3.6L AWD / Auto – (3629/ 1646)

So with that in mind, I see no reason why a turbo Camaro shouldn't be in the 3,3xx range. also, the Camaro will likely be a bit more "stripped" than the Cadillac, so losing enough weight to get into the upper 3,200 lb range looks entirely possible to me.

Now is the Camaro ends up riding on the longer Alpha wheelbase, well then it could end up being a bit heavier.

Consider this:

Lets say my numbers from above are correct. Doing basic mods like exhaust and such will drop another 25 to 50 lbs easy. A few other simple changes could have you at 3,200 lbs. Now, lets say the car is making 320 TQ (super easy for a turbo 4 banger even without tuning in many cases). Now you have a car with a ratio of 10lb per 1 foot lb of torque. Compare that to the 3,850 stock SS, which has a TQ ratio of about 9.1.

Not too shabby.
A 4 cylinder Chevy Cruze weighs 3250. The Cadillac weight you list include premium materials in areas that probably don't go in the price range of the Camaro just so the Cadillac can be on par with the BMW 3. Not saying our dream isn't possible just not very likely. You are lopping off 200 pounds just because you could from the Cadillac. 200 pounds won't be simple unless we g back to the discussion on how much you like your rear seat

Keep in mind the Z/28 only saves 100 pounds over the base car all in. The big weight save is compared to the other Z.

And when you quoted 3200 I assumed you meant from GM.

Also I believe the GMPP kit put the 2.0T at 290/320 so yes that is already achievable.

Just have my doubts about the weight.
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