[Mr. iNCREDIBLE]

Originally Posted by Jackass

Some people seams to never learn the lesson , go ahead and get that convertible , and chances are that you will be saying to yourself , not again , I'm a Jackass !!!

The design of the Convertible on the Camaro and on the Corvette are completely different. The Camaro top dumps into the trunk and is exposed while driving, it has 5 folds and when opened sits upright, not inverted, so air can get under the top and headliner causing excessive flapping and premature wear on the material, it is a large top with 5-bows encompassing a 4-seater vehicle.

The Corvette top is a 3-bow design (smaller area than that of the Gen5) and it dumps into it's own specific compartment in an inverted state (the top flips back so the headliner is actually facing up, with a tonneau cover to secure it. A design that GM has used on the Corvette convertibles since the 1950s and a design that is used by several other convertible manufacturers that is proven to protect the convertible top during highway speed driving, preventing the flapping that causes the premature wear.

GM knows the current Camaro design is flawed, and they have addressed the issue by making the convertible top design on the Gen6 Camaro similar, nearly identical to the Corvette design, a designated compartment for storage with a tonneau cover that protects the top, additionally if you watch how the corvette and gen 6 Camaro tops folds, it is a tri-fold design where the front is inverted when stored, preventing the flap and the need for the excessive fold design.

I am still up in the air about it, and will be doing a ton of research before making the decision, but so far the research I have done and the people I have spoken to that own C6 and C7 convertibles praise the design and claim they have had zero problems.

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Since you "love your Camaro", if I were you, I'd wait another month or so and drive a Gen6 Camaro FIRST. I think you just got a Camaro with the drop top assembled by someone having a bad day. Buy-backs are extremely rare and an absolute last resort when a problem simply cannot be fixed.

I have already asked about it and been told by GM the Gen6 convertible will not be available in dealer inventory until spring 2016.

I don't know that I want to wait 6 months, nor do I want to buy a first run of a newly redesigned model. I have owned 2 first run vehicles in the past that were plagued with problems (a Ford and a Chrysler), I stuck it out with both and never lemon lawed the vehicles because I had extended warranty for the issues, unfortunately I was not able to get the same for the Camaro, as the convertible top is excluded in any GM extended warranty, it is stated that the top and all corresponding parts are excluded from extended warranty coverage.

Yes I have a history of being that guy who wants to have the first model of a hot design, and it has bitten me in the ass twice.

I waited on the Camaro until the 2nd year because I didn't want to end up with issues, and it still happened..

Originally Posted by 13BRM2SSRS

Glad they are making it right for you! I've got a 13 vert and have not had any issues with it. The general consensus is that they fixed the issues that the earlier years had so maybe GM learned something from it!! Good luck with your choice eitiher way the C7's are awesome.

I looked at a dozen 2015s on the lot as the initial buy back option was to replace my 2012 with another Camaro, sad to say every one of the brand new 2015s on the lot had the exact same rub marks and deformity that I have on the 2012.

IMO the issue is not fixed, Some people don't experience the problem as much because they don't drive with their top down as often.

my top is never up unless the car is parked or it is raining. I can count on one hand the number of times I have driven with the top up.

the rubbing comes from the flapping which is a result of a poor design and poor air channeling design which causes a lot of air to pocket under the top.

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

I glad a Lemon Law exists. But I'm really surprised that it could apply to a drop top issue. But good on ya, brother. They'll make out jim dandy, especially if you buy a new Vette.

Lemon Laws differ from state to state, some require there to be a safety factor involved.

however in CA, it is simple: if a repair cannot be fixed in 3 dealer visits, or the repairs cause loss of vehicle use by the registered owner for more than 30 days as a result of those dealer visits, it is considered a lemon.

Originally Posted by myold88

It would be interesting to find out what GM does with mr.iNCREDIBLE's Camaro. Will they
junk it, let a GM employee drive it, end up on a dealers used car lot, etc.

I can tell you exactly what will happen. The title will be stamped as "Manufacturer Buy Back" and the vehicle will be sold at auction.

since there is no "safety" issue, the vehicle will return to the street and be sold to someone else. Since it has already been bought back the next owner will have no option for Lemon Law, they will simply have to live with the problems.