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Old 04-14-2022, 10:52 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole View Post
So you're saying that Tesla isn't going to want someone buying a $150,000 car and then modifying it and then blowing something expensive and returning it to the manufacturer to get it fixed for free? Shame on them.

You're just fancying up the wording for a warranty but putting a spin on it like the EVs are going about it the wrong way. Non-OEM software upgrades (tuning) now will void your warranty. You have to unlock the ECU/PCM now to tune a vehicle. You have to unlock the TCM to tune the trans. All this voids the warranty. People still haven't cracked the C8 ECU. You think the C8 Z06 is going to be modifiable? LOL. GM is going to lock those cars in and there is nobody who will be smart enough to crack it. What about BMW? If you bought a brand new i8 and something broke then are you gonna take a trip to AutoZone and buy a Dorman replacement part and install it yourself? LOL. No. You're going to take it to BMW or a qualified shop and have them do the work and they're either gonna use OEM BMW parts or a qualified replacement part.

So I'm not seeing what the difference is between now and in this future. Except maybe, instead of going to Vortech or TSP or some shop to modify your EV, you'll be able to go to your dealership and upgrade and keep your warranty intact and not blow something up unlike the many people who have had shoddy work and ended up with blown engines. Maybe it is time that the car manufacturers started figuring out ways to capitalize on this market. Maybe most of us would turn to Chevy if they offered a software upgrade that dramatically increased the output while maintaining a full warranty and not have to worry about emissions or failing inspection etc.
You're right in that this process did not begin with EVs, it's been building for a while, but EVs with their much higher software content are a giant nail in the coffin of 3rd party modifications.

That's what I reacted to from Number 3's post, of course manufacturers themselves will have some limited offerings (and granted, somewhat ironically, that'll still be better than today when gm are offering few to no software upgrades for a Camaro that is only 1-2 years old).
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