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Old 08-06-2019, 04:56 AM   #415
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Originally Posted by KingLT1 View Post
I think you are overlooking the advantages of DCT and how much more efficiently the C8 is converting that 495hp to the wheels. A 650whp Z06 makes roughly 550whp. It's said the 495hp C8 will likely make 450-460whp due to very low drive train loss and power through the shifts.

Also, the base C7 is 4.0 0-60 with a 12.2 1/4mi. If the C8 z51 can do 0-60 in 2.8 then that will again likely equate to 11.0-11.2 1/4 mi times based on the fact that they both accelerate the same after 60mph. 1 tenth reduction in 0-60 nets a 1 tenth reduction in 1/4 mi ET every day of the week. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes the ZL1 till 130mph to come around from a dig.
I wouldn't say I'm overlooking it. I think however that some are overestimating it's virtues. The way I see it, you can't say that it will do an 11 flat based off your estimations because HP and performance is not exactly linear. That 0-60, stellar tho it may be, is due to the car being able to get the power to the ground very efficiently. However once the advantages of the take-off are neutralized, it is a 495 HP car that weighs 3500 pounds. Meaning, it is not going to beat a Z06, Hellcat, ZL1, or a GT500 in a roll race. Or in a quarter mile. And it won't have a higher top speed than those cars. Well it might be close to the GT500 considering the 180 MPH limiter. Although top speed has to do with gearing, you still need power to get there. And I don't think it will have enough to get hit 200+ MPH. I also don't think it will hit low 11s or 11 flat.

Now I will be very surprised and impressed if it does do all those things. And I'd be much more willing to let the Hellcat go if it can beat the Hellcat in the quarter mile and top speed. But Hellcats make 650-680 HP to the wheels bone stock depending on trans. So I'm thinking that beating one might be too tall of an order for a C8 unless it is a Z06 or ZR1. If it does beat the Hellcat in the quarter mile then that will be due to the Hellcat coming with the shittiest tires that Dodge could get at a bargain price to throw on them. But it'll be close. I predict the following:

Hellcat - high 10s to high 11s depending on options (wide body, tire selection, Redeye).

C8 standard - High 11s

C8 Z51 - Mid 11s...maybe a low 11, like 11.4. Maybe.

ZL1 - Low 11s as we have seen.

C7 Z06 - Low 11s as we have seen.

GT500 Base - Low 11s depending on traction but definitely faster than the ZL1.

GT500 CF - High 10s to 11 flat.
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