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dieme1rc 02-08-2016 09:51 PM

sway bar
 
Has anyone found a good rear sway bar?

chuckclanton 02-20-2016 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dieme1rc (Post 8891118)
Has anyone found a good rear sway bar?

Define what you mean by good.

Tr6 02-20-2016 08:50 AM

BMR is the only company that I am aware who is working on it officially. Unofficially, Hotchkis was going to work on it as well.

And there are no "better" sway bars, only stiffer and less stiffer ones haha. Stock SS ones are pretty damn awesome and I see no need to upgrade them for now. I have not hit up the road course yet which I do plan on, after that I can see what exactly the vehicle will need suspension wise but even then, I do not enjoy ruining the DD Ability of my toy cars.

IN10SS 02-20-2016 10:25 AM

It's probably going to test our patience waiting for new parts. Regarding possible upgrades, sway bars are less likely then most to be detrimental to drivability . Maybe noticeable on the harshest bumps. I'd be a bit wary of changing just the rear unless it's a proven setup. Usually need both ends updated for balanced handling. It also should be put off until you have your tires and wheel combination sorted out.

BigEnos 02-24-2016 09:47 AM

What problem are you trying to solve with a rear bar? I'm sure Strano will have an adjustable unit out eventually, but he'll need a car to test with. His stuff doesn't always fit the narrative of what is generally considered "good," though.

laynlo15 02-28-2016 05:11 PM

Mine handles awesome, corners flat and hooks pretty good from a roll. Haven't hit it from a dead stop yet, I'm sure it will blow the tires off.

Tr6 02-28-2016 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15 (Post 8933932)
Mine handles awesome, corners flat and hooks pretty good from a roll. Haven't hit it from a dead stop yet, I'm sure it will blow the tires off.

You can trust the stock tires from a dead stop. You just need to make sure they are warmed up. Tested this MULTIPLE times already haha, including today. No spinning at all, hooked up from a dead stop. I am damn impressed with the GY'ers unlike most people who hate em. Only thing to complain about em are the road noise but that's because they are run flats. Any and every run flat is loud...

I think the suspension setup is pretty damn awesome with MRC. From all the info we got on the 1LE, looks like the only difference is really the eLSD. Info wasn't released saying sway bars are different or saying it was different. Tire setup is way different but that was expected since I knew from day 1 we could use a wider setup. It isn't 100% needed but sure could use it.

laynlo15 02-28-2016 06:11 PM

Tr6, remember I'm heading your way in a few months for Hot Rod Power tour. Stay in touch and wheres a good motel to stay at. Kansas Pavilion is where we are heading to and then back to KC on Friday. Then to Topeka on Friday night or Saturday Morning for Super Chevy.

Tr6 02-28-2016 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15 (Post 8934034)
Tr6, remember I'm heading your way in a few months for Hot Rod Power tour. Stay in touch and wheres a good motel to stay at. Kansas Pavilion is where we are heading to and then back to KC on Friday. Then to Topeka on Friday night or Saturday Morning for Super Chevy.

Oh that's pretty awesome!!! June 16 I believe is the date when yall are suppose be here. It should be pretty crazy. Do keep in the loop, especially when the time comes closer!

bpang1234 02-29-2016 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tr6 (Post 8916267)
BMR is the only company that I am aware who is working on it officially. Unofficially, Hotchkis was going to work on it as well.

And there are no "better" sway bars, only stiffer and less stiffer ones haha. Stock SS ones are pretty damn awesome and I see no need to upgrade them for now. I have not hit up the road course yet which I do plan on, after that I can see what exactly the vehicle will need suspension wise but even then, I do not enjoy ruining the DD Ability of my toy cars.

Don't forget hollow and solid. Not to mention ones that are engineered with stoppers to prevent them from sliding. Furthermore, most cars require upgraded end links to realize true gains.

I like to wait for others to do the R&D and real-world racing on them before I buy.

BradfordCamaro 02-29-2016 12:31 AM

Yeah, those awsome stoppers on the sway bar....the ones that punch out your bushings from the brackets. Never had any luck with those. I must have gone around turn 2 really fast :)

Tr6 02-29-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bpang1234 (Post 8934541)
Don't forget hollow and solid. Not to mention ones that are engineered with stoppers to prevent them from sliding. Furthermore, most cars require upgraded end links to realize true gains.

I like to wait for others to do the R&D and real-world racing on them before I buy.

Completely agree. Bushings that will come with them are extremely important as well. Some will squeak like crazy even if you put more than enough grease on it unless it has grooves to hold the grease.

I tried gathering info on the sway bars and other suspension parts but it is way too early for it... Especially for sway bars. I still have a spread sheet to compare stock ones in weight/hollow or solid/stiffness % increase etc... I have my template, just need the info haha.

bpang1234 02-29-2016 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tr6 (Post 8935057)
Completely agree. Bushings that will come with them are extremely important as well. Some will squeak like crazy even if you put more than enough grease on it unless it has grooves to hold the grease.

I tried gathering info on the sway bars and other suspension parts but it is way too early for it... Especially for sway bars. I still have a spread sheet to compare stock ones in weight/hollow or solid/stiffness % increase etc... I have my template, just need the info haha.

1. I'm pretty sure you're an engineer or scientist.
2. I use teflon tape instead of grease for the bushings, it lasts a lot longer.

Tr6 02-29-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bpang1234 (Post 8935515)
1. I'm pretty sure you're an engineer or scientist.
2. I use teflon tape instead of grease for the bushings, it lasts a lot longer.

1: LOL!!!!!!! Made my day, thank you. I just love real data but then do like to use that data to transfer it to real world applications, just an example: Just because sway bars are solid and thicker in diameter over the stock doesn't make them 100% better and I do it for fun. I love technical info.

2: That is VERY interesting! I will definitely do some digging on it as it's the first time hearing it.

edit: Using teflon tape is VERY old school. I like it!


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