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Cam#7 04-09-2013 08:32 AM

Gen6 lineup?
 
I think the introduction of the Z/28 for the 2014 model year makes things interesting for the 2016 Gen6. The Z/28 will definitely be back, but I don't see the ZL1 being available, at least not in the early years of Gen6.

Logic would say the SS would get the 427 and the Z/28 would get the LT1. The Z/28 would no longer be a stripped down car, have track goodies and be a good drivable week-end car. Also, I don't see the 1LE option clouding up the line-up.

daveagogo1 04-09-2013 08:39 AM

There is huge difference between a Z/28 and a Z28. Your scenario wouldn't fly.

axis 04-09-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cam#7 (Post 6401848)
I think the introduction of the Z/28 for the 2014 model year makes things interesting for the 2016 Gen6. The Z/28 will definitely be back, but I don't see the ZL1 being available, at least not in the early years of Gen6.

Logic would say the SS would get the 427 and the Z/28 would get the LT1. The Z/28 would no longer be a stripped down car, have track goodies and be a good drivable week-end car. Also, I don't see the 1LE option clouding up the line-up.

And this is based of what?

oldfriend 04-09-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by axis (Post 6401877)
And this is based of what?

Hot air alone !

90503 04-09-2013 10:46 AM

My guess is if anything the Z/28 will not be in the 6th Gen at all....It was a short run in the 60's...It'll be a short run here...

LT-1's for the SS, 1LE...S/C version for the ZL-1...

I read my horoscope and it said that I will foresee these sort of things, so don't argue with me...lol....

woodside783 04-09-2013 10:53 AM

I have wondered this to will the z/28 continue on the 6th or will it go back to z28 or is it just the last to years of the 5th

meissen 04-09-2013 10:59 AM

With the Corvette and the trucks going to the gen5 LT series engines, I would assume that the 6th generation Camaro will be on the gen5 LT series engines exclusively as well. The only engines I've seen mentioned thus far are the LT1 and then there were rumors on AutoBlog and GMI about a supercharged direct injected v8 engine. I can see how the LT1 is the replacement to the LS3, the supercharged direct injected engine being a replacement to the LS9, but I'm unsure of what would be the gen5 series equivalent of the 427 LS7.

That said - personally, I'd like to see the ZL1 continue because it's such a great "bang for buck" high performance vehicle. It'd be nice if it was able to blow the doors off the GT500 in every single aspect, though.

If they continued a Z/28 or Z28, I'd rather it be the Z/28 and continue the same path they're on -- stripper car meant for track performance and weekend cruiser, not meant as a daily driver... that's what the heritage of the Z/28 is all about. I'd like to see the SS 1LE continue for the daily driver track car, too...

At the end of the day, as long as we have a proven answer to every model that Ford offers on the Mustang, I'd be happy. :lol:

90503 04-09-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by woodside783 (Post 6402185)
I have wondered this to will the z/28 continue on the 6th or will it go back to z28 or is it just the last to years of the 5th

I'm a believer that the LS7 will be done in a couple of years with the 5thGen Z/28...Don't see what they could put in a Z/28 to be different in a 6thGen..

...My take on the "Z28" thing is that they will not do it...It's the main reason they built the monster "Z/28" like they did...

I don't really see a niche for the 6thGen Z/28 or a Z28 given the models already out there...

The_Blur 04-09-2013 12:17 PM

There's no reason to believe a Z/28 would be available at the onset, especially with the end of the LS-series V8. The most likely scenario is that the SS carries the LT1. The LT would carry the corporate V6 with the LS possibly powered by a turbo-4. Above that will depend on LT-series development.

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-09-2013 12:38 PM

I foresee the Z/28 and Z28 coexisting.

Bhobbs 04-09-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 6402571)
I foresee the Z/28 and Z28 coexisting.

In my opinion, the Z28 badge has been take over by the 1LE.

The LT1 is the base V8 and the blown/turbo'd LT1 will be the ZR1-ZL1 engine. That leaves the Z06-Z/28 engine.

toehead93 04-09-2013 03:40 PM

SS will get the LT1, Z/28 and ZL1 will xome out after year 1. The Z28 will likely have the same engine as the next Z06.

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-09-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6402906)
In my opinion, the Z28 badge has been take over by the 1LE.

The LT1 is the base V8 and the blown/turbo'd LT1 will be the ZR1-ZL1 engine. That leaves the Z06-Z/28 engine.

1LE = Z28? I don't think so. Your missing the LS7 unfortunately. Now if my 1LE had the LS7 in it, I wouldn't have bought the ZL1 honestly, but I had to trade up...

LS1hawk 04-09-2013 05:09 PM

Z/28 and Z28 will not coexist. Doesn't make sense.

RedWingsZL1 04-09-2013 05:10 PM

Oh get over yourselves. If you want a 'Z28' just go buy a damn badge.

greenrail 04-09-2013 05:17 PM

Badges? I don't need no stinkin' badges!

right to travel 04-09-2013 08:45 PM

6th gen line up

turbo 4 LS
LFX LT
LT1 (slightly down in power from vette) Z28 (no slash version)
LF3 (significant bump in power from underrated cadillac version) SS
LT"X" (unknown high displacement DI V8 engine) return to ZL-1 heritage ( notice the added dash)
LT"X" (FI V8?????? See new CAFE standards) there will be a FI v8 and the EPA will determine if the camaro will get one or not if GM can't get this out of the gas guzzler zone)

Random thoughts here. your stupid or not gonna happen comments not desired unless you got some info that would PROVE otherwise. your thoughts on other lineup variations or changes to mine are welcomed.

oklapike 04-24-2013 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right to travel (Post 6404573)
6th gen line up

turbo 4 LS
LFX LT
LT1 (slightly down in power from vette) Z28 (no slash version)
LF3 (significant bump in power from underrated cadillac version) SS
LT"X" (unknown high displacement DI V8 engine) return to ZL-1 heritage ( notice the added dash)
LT"X" (FI V8?????? See new CAFE standards) there will be a FI v8 and the EPA will determine if the camaro will get one or not if GM can't get this out of the gas guzzler zone)

Random thoughts here. your stupid or not gonna happen comments not desired unless you got some info that would PROVE otherwise. your thoughts on other lineup variations or changes to mine are welcomed.

Personally, I see it more like this:

LTG (turbo 4) for the LS
LFX for the LT
LT1 (98-99% of C7 output) for the SS
HO LT1 (8-10% above C7 output) for the Z/28 (keeping the slash)
LT4 (supercharged) for the ZL1

This is based on what we know to be true right now, as far as Gen V displacements and announced plans. Also, I really think the LF3 is going to stay a Cadillac exclusive engine (at least for the duration of the 6th gen Camaro and 3rd gen CTS).

Bhobbs 04-24-2013 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right to travel (Post 6404573)
6th gen line up

turbo 4 LS
LFX LT
LT1 (slightly down in power from vette) Z28 (no slash version)
LF3 (significant bump in power from underrated cadillac version) SS
LT"X" (unknown high displacement DI V8 engine) return to ZL-1 heritage ( notice the added dash)
LT"X" (FI V8?????? See new CAFE standards) there will be a FI v8 and the EPA will determine if the camaro will get one or not if GM can't get this out of the gas guzzler zone)

Random thoughts here. your stupid or not gonna happen comments not desired unless you got some info that would PROVE otherwise. your thoughts on other lineup variations or changes to mine are welcomed.

I don't see the ZL1 going to an N/A engine. The ZL-1 heritage is the aluminum 427. It went in a COPO Camaro but modern COPOs aren't street legal. The ZL1 should stay F/I and the Z/28 should get the same or similar engine going in the C7 Z06.


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