CAMARO6

CAMARO6 (http://www.camaro6.com/forums/index.php)
-   2016 Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum (http://www.camaro6.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=155)
-   -   2016 6th Gen SS (V8) "Upgrades"... (http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277619)

90503 02-17-2013 10:37 AM

2016 6th Gen SS (V8) "Upgrades"...
 
Just curious...If the new Gen6 is smaller, lighter, handles better, etc., how would the hp/torq/0-60, etc. compare to the Gen5?...I've heard code numbers for other V-8's (LS7, whatever), what are we talking in c.i. or horsepower?...Will the LS3 or L99 be unchanged in the Gen6...

(Sort of burned out on the I-4 thing, so what about the "big-dog" engines that may go in the Gen6?)...Thanks...

GretchenGotGrowl 02-17-2013 10:42 AM

I think the LT1 will probably find its way into the Gen6. We don't know how much HP/TQ it will have when certified, but if GM's estimates of 450 are right then it should be very impressive in an approximately 300 lb lighter car. Only time will tell if the alpha platform is the choice for the Camaro and if you can fit an LT1 in it. I'm hopeful.

KMPrenger 02-17-2013 12:48 PM

Agree with gretchen. LT1 should make its way into the 6th gen. With the lighter weight there wouldn't have to be any more power than the current car to be a better performer...especially since the LT1 makes even better torque down low than the LS3 and L99 do.

If it comes in at 450/450 it will be a killer machine.

90503 02-17-2013 01:46 PM

Sorry for not knowing...but an LT1 is a what...V-8,...6.2 liter?...crank hp?...currently being used in Vettes???....a newer version of LS3?...

SlingShot 02-17-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6171688)
Sorry for not knowing...but an LT1 is a what...V-8,...6.2 liter?...crank hp?...currently being used in Vettes???....a newer version of LS3?...


Here is a good write up ...

BigBlock69RS 02-17-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6171688)
Sorry for not knowing...but an LT1 is a what...V-8,...6.2 liter?...crank hp?...currently being used in Vettes???....a newer version of LS3?...

Here is some interesting reading

http://wot.motortrend.com/next-gen-l...ch-280365.html

mikeyg36 02-17-2013 02:04 PM

It is a brand new Gen V small block used in the C7 Vette. It is 6.2 liters with direct injection, VVT, and the dreaded AFM. GM estimates it with 450 HP 450 TQ. Apparently the torque curve is close to the LS7.

90503 02-17-2013 03:35 PM

Read the above links...thanks, boys...(sounds like they were written by the same guy, or they paraphrased the same press release...lol)...Anyway, sounds like a "better" engine...

...Didn't see any disclaimer about the AFM not being in manual cars...it was mentioned as akin to the L99 ...(Not sure what the case is with the 'Vettes)...AFM with a manual trans, would that even be possible?...

90503 02-17-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karguy (Post 6172260)
The new direct injected V8 is not necessarily better.AFM...:barf:
Which makes me think why would GM go through the additional cost of direct injection (as in a more expensive higher pressure pump) if the engine really doesn't make more power (additional variable valve timing) or get better mileage without AFM...
Also on direct injected engines intake valves can get more carbon buildup on intake valves since there is no gas that can clean them.
Another hint may be Porsche.While the new regular 911 get direct injected engines,the new sports GT3RS will have not direct injection.
Direct injection might be another gimmick for maybe slightly cleaner emissions...who knows?

Was thinking about AFM only...which my understanding is what shuts off the 4 cylinders...V-6s now have direct injection, without AFM, no cylinder shut-down...V-8's have L99 with AFM, LS3 does not have AFM...Wondering about the LT1, cylinder shut-down with both automatic and manual trans?, or AFM (cylinder shut-down) with the manual trans also with the LT1....

mikeyg36 02-17-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6172576)
Was thinking about AFM only...which my understanding is what shuts off the 4 cylinders...V-6s now have direct injection, without AFM, no cylinder shut-down...V-8's have L99 with AFM, LS3 does not have AFM...Wondering about the LT1, cylinder shut-down with both automatic and manual trans?, or AFM (cylinder shut-down) with the manual trans also with the LT1....

Both manual and auto... That's why the LT1 makes me sick :barf:

SlingShot 02-17-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karguy (Post 6172260)
The new direct injected V8 is not necessarily better.AFM...:barf:
Which makes me think why would GM go through the additional cost of direct injection (as in a more expensive higher pressure pump) if the engine really doesn't make more power (additional variable valve timing) or get better mileage without AFM...
Also on direct injected engines intake valves can get more carbon buildup on intake valves since there is no gas that can clean them.
Another hint may be Porsche.While the new regular 911 get direct injected engines,the new sports GT3RS will have not direct injection.
Direct injection might be another gimmick for maybe slightly cleaner emissions...who knows?


One of the big things is the difference in power curves between DI and non DI engines. If you look at a dyno graph the HP has a curve where the TQ is flat in the DI engine. I believe the AFM will be used just to save on the GG tax.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:22 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.