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mikeyg36 02-07-2013 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue10CamaroSS (Post 6134510)
The same reason you went with a gray Camaro over blue, or red, or yellow. Because it's all about options. People want options.
Are you insulting gray Camaros? :paddle: :laugh:

Blue17CamaroZL1 02-07-2013 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeyg36 (Post 6135181)
Are you insulting gray Camaros? :paddle: :laugh:
Of course not. It's just simply any other color Camaro that got old and needs AARP :sm0:

revychevy 02-07-2013 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by meissen (Post 6134127)
The problem that most of the close minded folks who think only a v8 belongs in the Camaro is that they don't realize that if the Camaro was v8 only there would not be enough business justification for the vehicle to exist. Without the v6, there would be no Camaro. Period.

Furthermore, my 1994 Camaro was a v6 when I bought it. I'm now one of the most passionate Camaro enthusiasts you'll meet. I run a Michigan-based Camaro and Firebird website with over 2300 members, I host a 300+ Camaro and Firebird specific car show every year, go to a ton of shows through the "car show season" in Michigan, registered on basically every Camaro forum on the internet, etc. Because of my '94 Camaro v6, I am likewise passionate about General Motors in general which made me work extra hard to get a job at General Motors world headquarters in Detroit. I eat, breathe, sleep GM and Camaro. I cannot imagine NOT owning at least one Camaro now for the rest of my life... And all that because of a v6...

So when I found out I could afford a 5th gen if I went with the base, 1LS model... Yeah, I didn't hesitate. :laugh:
We aren't talking about v6 Camaros we're talking 4bangers. If 4 banger SS's are cool, why NOT 2 cylinder smart Camaros or electric Prius Camaros? :barf:

FenwickHockey65 02-07-2013 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by revychevy (Post 6135223)
We aren't talking about v6 Camaros we're talking 4bangers. If 4 banger SS's are cool, why NOT 2 cylinder smart Camaros or electric Prius Camaros? :barf:
:facepalm:

Nobody's talking about putting a 4-cylinder in the SS.

revychevy 02-07-2013 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 (Post 6135227)
:facepalm:

Nobody's talking about putting a 4-cylinder in the SS.
Good. :mad0260: It makes me ill. As for how great they perform when FI, can't you FI a V8? The new DI V8 on the 2014 Stingray seems to get good gas milage. (Not that I truly cared about that when I bought my SS or that it will be my first consideration if they make an LS7 Z28!

FenwickHockey65 02-07-2013 10:53 PM
Yes. And the LT1 will go into the 6th gen. We're talking base engines here.

A smaller, lighter Camaro on Alpha will perform very well with the 2.0T LTG. Just look at ATS.

lbls1 02-08-2013 08:03 AM
I would buy 4cyl. in other cars, but never in a camaro. That would be too much of a compromise.

Gibroni 02-08-2013 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lbls1 (Post 6136257)
I would buy 4cyl. in other cars, but never in a camaro. That would be too much of a compromise.
That's a ridiculous statement. Here's a no cylinder car that blows the doors off your Camaro:

AKA-22 02-08-2013 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by meissen (Post 6134127)
The problem that most of the close minded folks who think only a v8 belongs in the Camaro is that they don't realize that if the Camaro was v8 only there would not be enough business justification for the vehicle to exist. Without the v6, there would be no Camaro. Period.

Furthermore, my 1994 Camaro was a v6 when I bought it. I'm now one of the most passionate Camaro enthusiasts you'll meet. I run a Michigan-based Camaro and Firebird website with over 2300 members, I host a 300+ Camaro and Firebird specific car show every year, go to a ton of shows through the "car show season" in Michigan, registered on basically every Camaro forum on the internet, etc. Because of my '94 Camaro v6, I am likewise passionate about General Motors in general which made me work extra hard to get a job at General Motors world headquarters in Detroit. I eat, breathe, sleep GM and Camaro. I cannot imagine NOT owning at least one Camaro now for the rest of my life... And all that because of a v6...

So when I found out I could afford a 5th gen if I went with the base, 1LS model... Yeah, I didn't hesitate. :laugh:
AMEN BROTHER!!!:thumbup:

Norm Peterson 02-08-2013 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Larz29 (Post 6132053)
Why would anyone want a 4 cyl camaro?? Sounds a bit lame.
Because for lots of folks, hardcore performance and even the characteristic V8 rumble does not mean much. "Peppy" performance, sure, and 260-ish HP and torque is entirely sufficient to give you that in a 3400-ish lb car and satisfy the vast majority of car buyers. Trust me on this point.

It's just that it's hard to see how people can think that way when you're a member of a forum with countless threads devoted to tunes, supercharging, and "which exhaust should I get". It really is hard to see the "non-enthusiast" mindset.

And like was said at least once already, all those people who would support the Camaro platform by buying it in 4-cylinder trim would be making it possible for you to have it in any trim at all. I wouldn't diss their choice so lightly.


Norm

KMPrenger 02-08-2013 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6135171)
Just an observation....seems like whenever a discussion over this I-4 in a Camaro comes up, it's praises as a respectable performance motor are only made after elaborate modifications have been added....Sure, you can probably mod the heck out of something for greater numbers, but in stock form, as it will probably be made, won't even be close to those...sort of defeats the affordable, entry-level argument...
I guess it depends on the person's views of "respectable performance".

Even at stock numbers with 260 - 280HP/TQ, in a 3,3xx lb car would likely be a low 6 second 0 - 60, and mid 14 second 1/4 mile car. I think thats respectable for a base 4-cylinder car. If they decide to bump the numbers into the 300s, well then it will likely be as fast or faster than todays V6.

Norm Peterson 02-08-2013 08:57 AM
Subaru's Legacy 2.5 GT (3400-ish, 260-ish) is a high 13 second car (and low 5's to 60 mph). At anything above about 2000 rpm where the boost has started to come in, you'd never guess it was "only a 4" by the seat of the pants feel.

Chevy could do far worse than target that range of performance for an I4 Camaro (and as an I4 it would have a far more pleasant exhaust note than Subaru's H4).


Norm

Goo 02-08-2013 09:04 AM
You guys do realize it wouldn't be the first time Camaro had 4 cylinders?...

MikeSVX 02-08-2013 09:20 AM
Ask the guys that were buying 4 cylinder Mustangs in the 80's. Cheap, cheap, cheap. Insurance and fuel......

mikeyg36 02-08-2013 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue10CamaroSS (Post 6135212)
Of course not. It's just simply any other color Camaro that got old and needs AARP :sm0:
:mad0233:

revychevy 02-08-2013 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Gibroni (Post 6136313)
That's a ridiculous statement. Here's a no cylinder car that blows the doors off your Camaro:
I get that a lot of you guys like low displacement turbo green cars, but why do you need to attack a guy who says he would only buy the V8? That's what he likes. A lot of us like it. If no one wanted to buy a V8 version of this car we wouldn't need anything but a Malibu. Showing a $150,000 electric super car means nothing. Might as well show a Bugatti.

revychevy 02-08-2013 11:54 AM
Hey, here's an idea. Why not make a small turbo 4 banger like a Cobalt SS with one of their econo cars? Because if they turn the Camaro into a Cobalt or worse a Leaf then I will be in the market for a Mustang, Challenger or whoever is still making muscle cars. There are probably others who think like me. Not knocking your choice however, drive a lawn mower if you want, or a Kia hamster mobile. I like big displacement NA V8. Sue me.


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