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oneredry 12-11-2014 12:59 PM

6th gen reveal and Detriot autoshow
 
I've seen other threads and the possible reveal date, nothing solid. So I came accross this for the detroid auto show. Doesn't look promising here either.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bus...show/20219547/

ilirg 12-11-2014 01:13 PM

What in there leads you to believe the 6th gen will not be revealed?

oneredry 12-11-2014 01:18 PM

well in looking in other threads right below mine (http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387737) there was a small segment that its "rumored". Now, I would have imagined it would have been a possible mentioned in the article that a debut of the new 6th gen. I still have high hopes for Detroit.

ssrs2lt 12-11-2014 01:30 PM

Yeah not sure where GM is at all in this process..

mako22 12-11-2014 02:13 PM

I wouldn't read into it, a reveal like this is not typically leaked in advance...

Z/284ever 12-11-2014 02:22 PM

If it's going to be revealed at the Detroit show, we'll probably know something after Christmas.

MikeT 12-11-2014 02:42 PM

One month from tomorrow, baby. Mark your calendars.

LesserO2Evils 12-11-2014 03:00 PM

If the premier IS at Detroit, it will be kept super top-secret. We MAY get lucky, as Z/28Forever said, and get a hint dropped after Christmas.

jshaf 12-11-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeT (Post 8108742)
One month from tomorrow, baby. Mark your calendars.

was thinking this very thing today, blue oval lovers start counting the days til the next great modern muscle car takes over for another 5 year run :)

MikeT 12-11-2014 05:46 PM

Did you kids notice that the Chevy presentation is the VERY FIRST ONE scheduled for Monday, January 12? Coincidence? I think not.
http://naias.mediaroom.com/2014-12-1...edule-Released

hotlap 12-11-2014 05:58 PM

Is the CTS-V also getting revealed at this show? Possibly the Tuesday Caddy presentation?

The CTS-V engine details will tell us a lot about the future for the gen6.

sonnydurden 12-11-2014 06:03 PM

I wonder what is Nissan's big "Brand Changing" announcement.. They are going back to being Datsun??

PYROLYSIS 12-11-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1 (Post 8109098)
Is the CTS-V also getting revealed at this show? Possibly the Tuesday Caddy presentation?

The CTS-V engine details will tell us a lot about the future for the gen6.

I think the CTS-V has a better chance of being revealed in Detroit than the Camaro. Pretty sure it's coming with the LT4 judging from what Ive read on here. I thought GM said the Camaro wasn't being revealed in Detroit and that they had no plans for the reveal yet?

MikeT 12-11-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 8109169)
I think the CTS-V has a better chance of being revealed in Detroit than the Camaro. Pretty sure it's coming with the LT4 judging from what Ive read on here. I thought GM said the Camaro wasn't being revealed in Detroit and that they had no plans for the reveal yet?

They never officially said it wasn't coming. In a light-on-facts article a month or so ago, USA Today reported that someone at GM said 'there were no plans.'

Brand Chevrolet is leading off the Monday press conference. That's the prime spot... with everyone's attention. If not then, when? New York? With no Buick or GMC press conferences at NAIAS, obviously they're saving their 2nd tier brands for the 2nd tier show(s).

It's happening. 1/12.

DenverTaco07 12-11-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 8109169)
I think the CTS-V has a better chance of being revealed in Detroit than the Camaro. Pretty sure it's coming with the LT4 judging from what Ive read on here. I thought GM said the Camaro wasn't being revealed in Detroit and that they had no plans for the reveal yet?

I remember GM being purposely vague not saying yes or no on Detroit...that was my take anyway. This was what...couple months ago...

YoungGun1993 12-11-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeT (Post 8109380)
It's happening. 1/12.

I don't know more than anybody else but consider this...where was the concept unveiled? Detroit NAIAS. Convertible concept? Detroit NAIAS the following year. The 2010 production model? Warren.

I just have a hard time seeing them doing it elsewhere. What's the Muscle Car culture in New York like? Nothing compared to Detroit.

The only doubt comes from whether or not GM is really gonna pack the CTS-V, Volt, and Camaro all into one auto show, but I don't think doing so is far fetched at all.

Bhobbs 12-11-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by YoungGun1993 (Post 8109391)
I don't know more than anybody else but consider this...where was the concept unveiled? Detroit NAIAS. Convertible concept? Detroit NAIAS the following year. The 2010 production model? Warren.

I just have a hard time seeing them doing it elsewhere. What's the Muscle Car culture in New York like? Nothing compared to Detroit.

The only doubt comes from whether or not GM is really gonna pack the CTS-V, Volt, and Camaro all into one auto show, but I don't think doing so is far fetched at all.

The 2010 Camaro was not revealed at a show. It was a private event based on what I could find on Google. I guess they figured that's all that it needed with the concept being revealed earlier.

I would be surprised if GM wastes the prime time reveal slot on Volt with the Camaro still not being shown to the public.

fradaj 12-11-2014 09:50 PM

I would like to see the new Camaro in Detroit but I believe that the 2014 refresh and Z/28 were revealed in New York. We need an official rumor to confirm.

Bhobbs 12-11-2014 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fradaj (Post 8109474)
I would like to see the new Camaro in Detroit but I believe that the 2014 refresh and Z/28 were revealed in New York. We need an official rumor to confirm.

A refresh isn't as big a deal as a new generation.

YoungGun1993 12-11-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 8109435)
The 2010 Camaro was not revealed at a show. It was a private event based on what I could find on Google. I guess they figured that's all that it needed with the concept being revealed earlier.

I would be surprised if GM wastes the prime time reveal slot on Volt with the Camaro still not being shown to the public.

It was revealed at an event at the Warren Technical (Engineering) Center, in Warren, MI - just north of Detroit. That's why I used it to support my belief that it will be at NAIAS.

Also IMO the Volt is HUGE for GM. Sure not from an income, volume, or market share perspective but it's existence creates a halo effect and generates (hopefully) good PR. They want people talking about their alternative energy options.

nester7929 12-11-2014 11:38 PM

The New York Auto Show is in April. If GM is going to launch this as a 2016 model, that's quite late. NAIAS makes more sense, at least in terms of generating hype.

hector95z 12-12-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeT (Post 8109074)
Did you kids notice that the Chevy presentation is the VERY FIRST ONE scheduled for Monday, January 12? Coincidence? I think not.
http://naias.mediaroom.com/2014-12-1...edule-Released

This is key, Chevy is going first for a reason people. They want to make a big splash and not with a car like the Volt. Camaro revealing in t minus 30 days

LesserO2Evils 12-12-2014 08:45 AM

I was not aware that Chevy had the opening slot. There is a reason for that.
Yeah...its going down in Detroit! HELL YEAH!!!!

HDRDTD 12-12-2014 10:22 AM

There is some speculation that GM will be announcing/displaying several items at the Detroit show and are afraid that if they unveil the 6th gen, it'll draw too much attention from their other announcements that they want to be front and center.

Who knows.

Autonaut 12-12-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD (Post 8110086)
There is some speculation that GM will be announcing/displaying several items at the Detroit show and are afraid that if they unveil the 6th gen, it'll draw too much attention from their other announcements that they want to be front and center.

Who knows.

Thats possible. However, if they reveal the Volt, the CTS-V and 6gen Camaro, i dont think any of the cars will steal eachothers thunder. The Volt is for the treehuggers and to show people they are in the game. A game that could be a gamechanger in a few years time. The CTSV, i dont know exactly who their buyers are, but i suspect not too many people crosshop the caddy and camaro. They are 2 cars built for different purposes. 1 is a muscle car. The other is a luxury tourer, a BMW M5 fighter perhaps..

I honestly believe these 3 vehicles revealed at the same time would garner GM the maximum amount of attention available at the moment. It would call for all car freaks attention. Not "just" camaro lovers:) if they were revealed at different events at different dates, they would not gather as much hype.

Being that GM is the first to hold a press conference, i believe they take are going for the guns drawn approach. An all in strategy. Reveal, "sit back" for the rest of the event and watch what happens:)

Im so stoked.. Im positive they will reveal it 12/1

MikeT 12-12-2014 12:14 PM

And let's not forget that Cadillac has its own event on Tues, Jan 13, so the CTS-V is a non-factor in all this.

The Chevy event is not going to be all about the Volt. The Volt is a niche product that most of the automotive world ignores. Almost no one cares. That's the hard truth.

Worry about the Cruze, not the Volt. The 2016 Cruze is an important, 'volume' product that could debut at NAIAS. But a version of the new Cruze has already debuted in China. And while the North America Cruze will apparently have some cosmetic changes (i.e., grill, fascia, et.), it's probably not going be THAT different. The new Cruze, no matter how important, is unlikely to be a car that sets the automotive world on fire.

The Camaro, on the other hand, has sex appeal.

Jason@JacFab 12-12-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sonnydurden (Post 8109106)
I wonder what is Nissan's big "Brand Changing" announcement.. They are going back to being Datsun??

That's old news. They already have. They're just crappy econo-box cars though, nothing exciting. Not available in the US (yet?)

Fingers cross to get a 6th gen sighting next month!

KMPrenger 12-12-2014 09:19 PM

Wow...its crazy to think that the 6th gen could be revealed just a month from now.

As aside from camo'd cars....no leaks whatsoever. That's keeping a tight lip compared to the 7th gen Corvette.

So in a month I might be making the decision whether to keep, or sell my car.

hotlap 12-12-2014 10:09 PM

I was hunting for anything hinting at the Camaro reveal and found this from last August. Doesn't looking good if there will only be one Chevy revealed. :frown:

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Next-gen Chevy Volt to debut at 2015 Detroit auto show
Tim Mahoney, Chevy's global chief marketing officer, disclosed the plans at the 2014 Management Briefing Seminars in Traverse City, Mich. He also revealed a teaser photo that showed the redesigned 2016 Volt's rear badge and a more sculpted decklid.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...roit-auto-show

FenwickHockey65 12-12-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeT (Post 8110346)
And let's not forget that Cadillac has its own event on Tues, Jan 13, so the CTS-V is a non-factor in all this.

The Chevy event is not going to be all about the Volt. The Volt is a niche product that most of the automotive world ignores. Almost no one cares. That's the hard truth.

Worry about the Cruze, not the Volt. The 2016 Cruze is an important, 'volume' product that could debut at NAIAS. But a version of the new Cruze has already debuted in China. And while the North America Cruze will apparently have some cosmetic changes (i.e., grill, fascia, et.), it's probably not going be THAT different. The new Cruze, no matter how important, is unlikely to be a car that sets the automotive world on fire.

The Camaro, on the other hand, has sex appeal.

First off, saying the automotive world ignores Volt is absolutely laughable considering how many COTY awards the vehicle has won and how much speculation surrounds the 2nd gen.

2nd gen NA Cruze will be more than just a front fascia swap from the Chinese spec model.

MikeT 12-13-2014 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 (Post 8111351)
First off, saying the automotive world ignores Volt is absolutely laughable considering how many COTY awards the vehicle has won and how much speculation surrounds the 2nd gen.

Yeah, and I can point you to some "Biggest flop" lists, too. I'll concede that a few folks in the media are curious about the Volt and will undoubtedly want to write about the changes to the 2nd gen. Okay, fine.

But GM is a business, and the important audiences are not automotive journalists and bloggers but rather GM's actual customers and investors.

Is the Volt relevant to the overwhelming majority of GM's customers? No, it isn't. How many are being sold? 1,500 units a month in the U.S.? On a car in which the GM has sunk billions? And plummeting fuel prices aren't going to help the situation. The Camaro can potentially sell 7x the Volt, and do so profitably.

And the Volt is relevant to GM's shareholders only in a negative sense, i.e.,, how much money the company will continue to lose per unit.

The fortunes of GM have to do with real cars that buyers actually want and that can be sold profitably and in sufficient numbers... cars like the Cruze and the Camaro, with the latter offering more in the way of glamor.

If GM wastes the NAIAS focusing on an unsuccessful endeavor like the Volt, management should be fired.

Blueclyde 12-13-2014 07:25 AM

I think the reveal and info on the 6th gen will be slow played by GM. After thinking about some of the resultant events post some 5th gen reveals (ZL1), my guess would be NY. No need to announce early. It only gives competition advance info to use against you and hurts current model sales. I would be surprised if we see anything in Detroit.

KMPrenger 12-13-2014 10:58 AM

Actually I disagree with that thought that the Volt doesn't deserve a big spot of its own. It does...and it IS an important car.

The car is becoming more affordable, and will almost certainly offer greater range than the current model. As the price comes down, you'll start seeing this option popping into people's heads more and more. Owners overwhelmingly like the car very much, and I think a lot more would like to give the car a shot, but the price didn't/doesn't make sense in many cases. But as I said above that is changing over time.

I think in the future this car could be a hit for GM.

So while I'd love to see a 1/12 6th gen reveal, I still have my doubts. Chevrolet could do a reveal show all on its own for the 6th gen, like Ford did for the Mustang.

The thing is, it seems like GM loves to reveal models 6 - 9 months or so before it even becomes available, so even if it is revealed in Jan, I'm betting it won't hit dealer lots until mid summer at the earliest if not late summer/early fall. If GM doesn't reveal the car until later 2015, what does that mean....could it mean a late 2016 model year release? Who knows. We likely won't get power, weight, or MPGs until months after the initial reveal, but I'm hoping that if a good amount of weight is shed, that GM will want to brag about that early on, and will reveal the weight, (or at least provide good hints/clues on weight loss) so we don't have to wait seemingly forever for that info.

ilirg 12-13-2014 11:20 AM

Ford is bringing the heat to Detroit, GM will miss a great opportunity to steal the thunder by not revealing the 6th gen.

hector95z 12-13-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ilirg (Post 8111802)
Ford is bringing the heat to Detroit, GM will miss a great opportunity to steal the thunder by not revealing the 6th gen.

This

ssrs2lt 12-13-2014 12:09 PM

yep getting time to put up or shut up!

Autonaut 12-13-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ssrs2lt (Post 8111865)
yep getting time to put up or shut up!

It sure feels like it..

I mean. We know the platform.
We can assume a LT1 v8 or something of similar power levels.
We more or less know what it will look like.

GM needs to bring us something. Soon. Even if we already have guessed it.
Guessing is getting old.

mako22 12-13-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueclyde (Post 8111540)
I think the reveal and info on the 6th gen will be slow played by GM. After thinking about some of the resultant events post some 5th gen reveals (ZL1), my guess would be NY. No need to announce early. It only gives competition advance info to use against you and hurts current model sales. I would be surprised if we see anything in Detroit.

you're probably right. Hoping for January but I will be at NY :pray:

LesserO2Evils 12-15-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hector95z (Post 8111826)
This


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Denis 12-16-2014 08:12 AM

NYIAS...im calling it. plus I want it to be there so I can be there for it...


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