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mbar 11-18-2017 08:06 AM

1LE or ZL1 front brake kit
 
Hi guys,
I came to the point that my standard 4 pots is holding me back on the track. It's not the stopping power, but the overheating and pad glazing/rotor hot spots.
I talked to my favorite Online GM parts vendor and he suggested the 1LE kit for $1500 or ZL1 kit for $1700. Both do not includ pads.
Which kit should I go with?

Norm Peterson 11-18-2017 08:38 AM

What pads are you currently using?


Norm

Eric SS 11-18-2017 09:09 AM

Where can you get the full front 1LE front kit for $1,500? That’s a steal.

soloknight6 11-18-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric SS (Post 9980360)
Where can you get the full front 1LE front kit for $1,500? That’s a steal.

Id like to know too.

mbar 11-18-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson (Post 9980332)
What pads are you currently using?


Norm

ST-43 pads with RE71R tires

mbar 11-18-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric SS (Post 9980360)
Where can you get the full front 1LE front kit for $1,500? That’s a steal.

Www.generalmotorspartsonline.com
Great guy named Kenneth. Always takes care of me.
Pic below show the quote. I think the bolts are not the correct part.

MatthewAMEL 11-18-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mbar (Post 9980430)
ST-43 pads with RE71R tires

While you certainly know your driving style and limits better than anyone on the forum, I would question if you have really reached the limit of the braking.

The ST-43 is not a great pad.

I would try the Hawk DTC-60 or the G-Loc/Carbotech R16/XP16, before I went to a new caliper/rotor setup.

Eric SS 11-18-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mbar (Post 9980433)
Www.generalmotorspartsonline.com
Great guy named Kenneth. Always takes care of me.
Pic below show the quote. I think the bolts are not the correct part.

Nice. Does the rotor include the hat and mounting hardware?

EDIT: just looked it up by part number and it is the entire assembly. That’s a great price! I might have to use your guy in the future.

Eric SS 11-18-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 9980594)
While you certainly know your driving style and limits better than anyone on the forum, I would question if you have really reached the limit of the braking.

The ST-43 is not a great pad.

I would try the Hawk DTC-60 or the G-Loc/Carbotech R16/XP16, before I went to a new caliper/rotor setup.

I quite like the ST-43.

mbar 11-18-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 9980594)
I would question if you have really reached the limit of the braking.

The ST-43 is not a great pad.

.

I might be doing something wrong or it might be the pads, but the pads are getting tapered, rotor start juddering after a day or two in the track. No brake fade at all.
I was asking people around, and some were saying that the small pad/rotor cannot handle the heat

MatthewAMEL 11-18-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric SS (Post 9980623)
I quite like the ST-43.

Probably because you haven’t used a good pad. :D

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506208

glamcem 11-20-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 9980831)
Probably because you haven’t used a good pad. :D

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506208

Have you actually read the whole thread? :)
It's explained many times in that thread why his experience was different than other people who had fantastic results with them (due to driving style).

I did use many "good" pads and I find the ST series much better than the others for track use, all things considered.

00 Trans Ram 11-20-2017 05:20 PM

Try another pad before you get new everything.

When I raced my 2000 Trans Am, I used stock C5 calipers and rotors. But I put Carbotech XP12 pads in them. I raced against an almost identical 2000 Camaro with 6-piston Wilwoods. And I could outbrake him in every corner, all race long.

Now, the only drawback was that the pads lasted exactly 2.5 races. But, that's about 3 hours of pure racing.

mbar 11-20-2017 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 00 Trans Ram (Post 9982816)
Try another pad before you get new everything.

When I raced my 2000 Trans Am, I used stock C5 calipers and rotors. But I put Carbotech XP12 pads in them. I raced against an almost identical 2000 Camaro with 6-piston Wilwoods. And I could outbrake him in every corner, all race long.

Now, the only drawback was that the pads lasted exactly 2.5 races. But, that's about 3 hours of pure racing.

I did try XP12 in the past. Braking power was great, but as you mentioned they died after 8X20 min on the track. Not the best value for money.
But again....spending $2000 on a BBK is not cheap either...


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