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KEEP RT 03-07-2014 10:57 PM

Aluminum in the Camaro future?
 
Wondering that sense GM is making the Vett out of a lot of aluminum and will be making the pickup using a lot of it, what are the chances of the Camaro being made that way. Imagine the possibilities :confused0068:

maddoggyusa 03-08-2014 12:11 AM

Go read up on the Cadillac ATS.... Same platform and plant Camaro is switching towards.

dgriddick 03-08-2014 05:13 AM

Camaro already has aluminum parts... Id prefer not to have the whole body though

not 03-08-2014 05:22 AM

The hood has always been 100% aluminum on the Gen 5.

GM "poo-poo'd" the all-aluminum Ford F-150, then saw the excitement and thought, "Oh Fetch", we better make one too....

Aluminum has come a long way and better manufacturing techniques helps.

8863 03-08-2014 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by not (Post 7478190)
The hood has always been 100% aluminum on the Gen 5.

GM "poo-poo'd" the all-aluminum Ford F-150, then saw the excitement and thought, "Oh Fetch", we better make one too....

Aluminum has come a long way and better manufacturing techniques helps.

I wouldn't say GM poo-poo'd an all aluminum truck body. As someone who works at one of the GM truck plants we were told an all aluminum body is coming in the near future at least a year or more ago.

Dubscamaro 03-08-2014 08:32 AM

I wouldn't mind fiber glass like corvettes used to. Aluminum probably because less weight and gas.

Del's12SS 03-08-2014 08:38 AM

Saw a post about GM execs demanding a "diet" for all vehicles. Aluminum was mentioned in the article. Hell braced and supported I see it being a positive.

68vert 03-08-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by not (Post 7478190)
The hood has always been 100% aluminum on the Gen 5.

The trunk lid is too.

maddoggyusa 03-08-2014 09:49 AM

If you think aluminum is cool, magnesium is even cooler. We would make steering wheel armatures in both materials. Lots of cross car beams are now magnesium.

The ATS had some aggressive weight targets. I think that car is around 3300 pounds which is incredible. If they can shed 500 pounds with these engines, the next Camaro will be a beast.

Angrybird 12 03-08-2014 09:53 AM

When insurance companies start seeing how much it costs to repair these aluminum cars, get ready for huge price increases in insurance rates, not only on the aluminum vehicles but all across the board...

oldfriend 03-08-2014 09:55 AM

Engine block , heads , pistons , Gearbox case, Wheels ,etc
Heck , even my 12 Avalanche got the drive shaft in alloy

Firefighter 03-08-2014 10:06 AM

It's inevitable with the new CAFE standards and demand for performance. I think if used properly it is a MAJOR positive.

As for magnesium as mentioned above. It's cool until your car is on fire. I personally don't like burning metal that explodes when I try to extinguish it. Could just be me though.

Insurance already looks at cars as almost disposable as it is the aluminum won't make matters too much worse.

Angrybird 12 03-08-2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter (Post 7478573)
It's inevitable with the new CAFE standards and demand for performance. I think if used properly it is a MAJOR positive.

As for magnesium as mentioned above. It's cool until your car is on fire. I personally don't like burning metal that explodes when I try to extinguish it. Could just be me though.

Insurance already looks at cars as almost disposable as it is the aluminum won't make matters too much worse.

The higher cost of repair will mean it will take even less damage to total a car out.. Which means more and higher payouts by insurance companies.

kjkjr27 03-08-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by maddoggyusa (Post 7478527)
If you think aluminum is cool, magnesium is even cooler. We would make steering wheel armatures in both materials. Lots of cross car beams are now magnesium.

The ATS had some aggressive weight targets. I think that car is around 3300 pounds which is incredible. If they can shed 500 pounds with these engines, the next Camaro will be a beast.


If you made a car out of Magnesium and it ever caught fire wouldn't it just be one giant bright ass flare... :iono:


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