Hey, here's an idea. Why not make a small turbo 4 banger like a Cobalt SS with one of their econo cars? Because if they turn the Camaro into a Cobalt or worse a Leaf then I will be in the market for a Mustang, Challenger or whoever is still making muscle cars. There are probably others who think like me. Not knocking your choice however, drive a lawn mower if you want, or a Kia hamster mobile. I like big displacement NA V8. Sue me.
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...I disagree with the argument that these cars need a small engine for the V-8 to even be available, (as if the fours and sixes were doing us a favor)...I see it the other way around, the V-8 gives the car it's appeal, and the Camaro wouldn't have been built if it weren't for the V-8, not the other way around... I saw the thread that showed the production numbers for the 2011-2012 Camaros...as I re-call, the V-6 was not a runaway majority, it was fairly even.... |
I can't imagine why anyone would want a 4 cylinder Camaro. I can see wanting a 4 cylinder in a car designed for a 4 cylinder engine, but I really don't see the point in bastardizing a car made for muscle.
A lot of posters seem to think everyone against the 4 cylinder Camaro are neanderthals. We're really pragmatists. We know what introducing a 4 cylinder means for V8 enthusiasts; watered-down performance and bullshit. And yes, it's been done before. It wasn't good. |
For every person who thinks chevy will make a WRX Sti, 3 more think it will be the Iron Duke.
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Putting a 4 cyl. engine in a camaro variant that has historically been themed as a v8 performace car (such as an SS or a Z28) to me is ridiculous because it is a compromise on the heritage of the car. The performace camaro is more (believe it or not) than just sheer numbers. The v8 camaro represents a sound, feel, persona of camaros past and present that has been characterized by their v8 motors, and as such, that persona would have very slim or no odds of being equally replicated by a different engine configuration. Its my opinion, and to me it is not a ridiculous statement. Your reply, however, leaves a lot to be desired. |
This thread makes me want to start a "Why did you get a V6 Camaro?" thread
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Simply put, if adding an I4 engine to the 6th gen lineup means they sell 100,000 cars instead of 90,000 cars (pulling easy numbers out my ass) then why not? It just means that we ALL have a better chance of seeing a 7th gen, 8th gen, 9th gen Camaro... a win-win for all of us. It simply will not affect anyone who only wants to buy the SS, Z28, ZL1, whatever model. Another classic example - for all the hate people give on the v6s. How many people on this site bought a v6 and then upgraded to an SS? If they hadn't bought that v6 to fall even more in love with the Camaro, for all we know they could have gone with a Mustang or some other car entirely. Because they offered the v6 GM got two sales out of them... |
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Look around your neighborhood. On my block, there are exactly two V8 cars other than mine, and there might be a couple more cars in top-of-the-model-line performance trim other than my other 3. Most people really do just buy point A to point B transportation. Quote:
I'd fear upcoming mpg standards far, FAR more than 4-cylinder powerplants as far as maintaining or further improving performance is concerned. Fighting against availability of a four is picking the wrong battle. I know about Iron Dukes (and Chevy's 153 CID fours 10 or 15 tears before that). Neither of those adversely affected V8 development, and we're anywhere from 20 to 50 or so years removed from the state of tune that those engines were built to. Norm |
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I'm sure there are people who'd like a station-wagon variant also, and probably another group that would love a Camaro pick-up. Should Chevy build their car too? After all, no one is forced to buy any particular variation, so car makers should manufacture every dumbass idea that crosses their mind. What could go wrong? A 4 cylinder isn't needed or wanted. God only knows why you clowns keep zealously attacking anyone who points that out. |
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FFS, it's not like they're deleting the V8 altogether. The base engine will just be a 2.0T. If you're not interested in the base engine then WGAS?
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It would be like taking something good and raising it by a power of 2 (because it would be better than the sum of its parts). |
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If you want L99 power, then get an L99 and a free warranty with it. |
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A 4-cylinder Camaro again? GM tried it and failed before.
Or they could call it a Monza! |
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We have a 4 cylinder Camaro already, it is called a L99:facepalm::sm0::confused0068:
I can say that since I owned #230 one of the first L99's. |
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I know times have changed, but I just hate to see the Camaro (6th Gen) especially, become just another economy transportation vehicle...I think the Gen5 (V6 included) sort of bucked the "trend" of being another run-of-the-mill, a little something for everybody type car...
The 5th Gen v6, I came to believe, was the modern type of what older small displacement v-8s were once upon a time, and the SS v-8's harkened back to what most remember and desired from the older first gen muscle cars... I hear some "justify" the v6 because many other gen Camaros had them, but don't bring up the vast improvements over the old 6's, yet the I-4 is always touted as not being the same old dog 4-bangers... ...Just sayin' the "image" of what made the Camaro a success with the fifth gen, will be lost with the addition of a four-cylinder engine on the 6th, and the for the Camaro line of cars, a V-6 is "base" enough....Why it can't remain something "special", instead of going 4-cyl, like just about all other model lines have done is, for lack of a better expression, "watering-down" the image of the car, and may result in hurting sales, rather than improving them... |
I myself am not against a Turbo 4 in the camaro i just think that they wont cause it would mean certain death for a Frs/brz competitor I.E. the code 130R cause they both would be price similar and even though the 130 R would prolly have around 200 to 215 hp and weight around what the Brz/Frs performance would be around the same or better. I think a V6 and a V8 powertrain is what the camaro will have if they come out with the 130R
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...did not read the thread...Turbo 4 DI clean diesels provide a ton of torque and great fuel lileage. I have a VW TDI. It's amazing. Less mileage when it's cold, but up to 45 MPG highway otherwise.
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