well, when the government puts a mandate that no passenger car can be produced that gets less than 30mpg, what will they do then?

Make V8's more efficient and lighten the vehicle. ;)

well when the day comes when they make a 600hp car that gets 30mpg............................................. ......................

Seems to me that we are going to see car's become more efficient in all categories so you won't need big HP to make a car perform. JMO

Extreme example... Think purpose built race cars. Lower HP but crazy performance.

That is exactly my point to begin with, smaller cars, smaller motors, still just as fast:thumb:

Got ya :thumb:

Nope.

GM just needs high MPG vehicles to outweigh the Corvette and the Camaro. All these ratings are fleet MPG.

I will have to say I agree... it's probably just a matter of time the way things are looking.

I think 2016 will bring a new camaro with fewer models, look at the corvette, six models of the same, z06 is coming a year or two later. No supercharged camaro in 2016, hood clearance is an issue and turbos are the way of the future. After all 2014 camaro is a facelift year except ZL1 front clip. Big cubes are faaaaaaading!

..I say no ....for now, thats Corvette territorty for the forseable future until we get the lowdown on the LS6/LS7 and ZR1 models. We'll get a better picture from there.

I hope the 6th gen will get a v-8.
its all based on the alpha, and the ATS does not have a v-8 at all, just a TTv-6 as their top of the line. ( I went to GM Cadillac web site for 2014, and that is the top engine. . only 4 bangers, and 2 v-6 models.
So we may not get the v-8 option at all. It may just be a pipe dream.
DAM CAFE, and Obama. has nothing with us finding oil on US soil. the government has a hair stuck up their ass to get rid of all big engines. In past years, smaller motors was the answer to the oil scare, now, its not even that, its big brother just flexing its muscles to make everyone in the 'free world' do their bidding.
at this, I even wish they would bring back a decent 5.0, and that could work well with the smaller, lighter, more nimble camaro.
I believe that day will come, when the mighty vette will have to lose its v-8. the manufacturer car wars will continue with smaller 4 bangers, as v-8 will be long gone, and possibly, the v-6 too. I think a v-6 would live on, as a truck engine, since they have to haul some heavy loads. a 4 banger would certainly not do well pulling heavy loads.

The Alpha fits a V8.