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Snakedriver 04-07-2013 04:04 PM

Will The 6TH Gen See 650-700HP
 
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It would be nice if the top Camaro(ZL1) 6TH Gen has 650-700HP whether it be SC or Turbo.

Juiced1 04-07-2013 04:29 PM

The new ZR1 has been rumored to be a twin turbo version of the new LT1. I would guess that a version of that will reach the 6th gen Camaro. As far as output is concerned we can only speculate. If the LS9 put out 640 hp then I would think this new turbo motor has to put down close to 700 with direct injection and twin turbos! Knowing GM I would guess a slightly dialed back version would be somewhere over 600 but under 700 hp. Whether it is a turbo set up or if they stick with the same Eaton blower set ups in the current LSA/LS9 motors.

Bhobbs 04-07-2013 04:40 PM

I'm hoping the C7Z06 stays with the 7.0 L displacement and it ends up on the 6th gen Z/28.

OldScoolCamaro 04-09-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Juiced1 (Post 6394632)
The new ZR1 has been rumored to be a twin turbo version of the new LT1. I would guess that a version of that will reach the 6th gen Camaro. As far as output is concerned we can only speculate. If the LS9 put out 640 hp then I would think this new turbo motor has to put down close to 700 with direct injection and twin turbos! Knowing GM I would guess a slightly dialed back version would be somewhere over 600 but under 700 hp. Whether it is a turbo set up or if they stick with the same Eaton blower set ups in the current LSA/LS9 motors.

...a source told me the ZR1 is going to closer to 730 HP, in order keep up with the Jones'. :thumbsup:

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-09-2013 12:55 PM

If there is a 6th Gen ZL1 it may stay with 580hp range as it will be on a lighter platform.

Bhobbs 04-09-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 6402855)
...a source told me the ZR1 is going to closer to 730 HP, in order keep up with the Jones'. :thumbsup:

Any source info on the Z06?

2012-1822 04-28-2013 03:45 AM

Yeah, I'm going with not, that Chevy has been telling us for a while that everything will be moving towards lighter, so you may end up with a lower horsepower, relatively speaking, top model that out performs current models because of weight and engineering. But I have no clue really. Fun to guess about it.

2012-1822 05-12-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 6402876)
If there is a 6th Gen ZL1 it may stay with 580hp range as it will be on a lighter platform.

Exactly, same power range but lighter car wouldn't hurt my feelings. And you know we will all mod it anyway no matter where it starts at

NASTY99Z28 05-12-2013 02:21 AM

It will still be a twin screw and come in around 650hp.

Wizard1183 05-13-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 6402876)
If there is a 6th Gen ZL1 it may stay with 580hp range as it will be on a lighter platform.

There wont be. ZL-1 was only a 1969 car and I'm pretty sure GM will discontinure it from the line up and have as a premier 5th gen only car. As for a Camaro having 650-700 HP? I'm going to bet no 6th gen model will be near those numbers.

Bhobbs 05-13-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183 (Post 6537250)
There wont be. ZL-1 was only a 1969 car and I'm pretty sure GM will discontinure it from the line up and have as a premier 5th gen only car. As for a Camaro having 650-700 HP? I'm going to bet no 6th gen model will be near those numbers.

Well, the ZL1 was built for more than 1 year for the 5th gen. Plus, I doubt GM wants to give up the supercharged segment to Ford with the success of the ZL1.

v8 05-16-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6539145)
Well, the ZL1 was built for more than 1 year for the 5th gen. Plus, I doubt GM wants to give up the supercharged segment to Ford with the success of the ZL1.

Who knows if Ford will stay with superchargers? Everyone may go with turbo in the future as it is more efficient

bw26ss 05-16-2013 04:43 PM

Something everyone needs to understand, v8 muscle cars are going to be dinosaurs in a few years, so enjoy what you have, get ready for turbo 6's and 4's

DuskSS 05-16-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bw26ss (Post 6552217)
Something everyone needs to understand, v8 muscle cars are going to be dinosaurs in a few years, so enjoy what you have, get ready for turbo 6's and 4's

yeh they said this before.. and always bring them back.
aint gonna happen. :emoticon1:
the V8 will never die nothing can replace that HP/torque and feel that big engines give.

especially now that the USA is back in the oil business.
who is OPEC? we dont need them anymore.

bw26ss 05-16-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DuskSS (Post 6552241)
yeh they said this before.. and always bring them back.
aint gonna happen. :emoticon1:
the V8 will never die nothing can replace that HP/torque and feel that big engines give.

especially now that the USA is back in the oil business.
who is OPEC? we dont need them anymore.

well, when the government puts a mandate that no passenger car can be produced that gets less than 30mpg, what will they do then?

ShnOmac 05-16-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bw26ss (Post 6552255)
well, when the government puts a mandate that no passenger car can be produced that gets less than 30mpg, what will they do then?

Make V8's more efficient and lighten the vehicle. ;)

bw26ss 05-16-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 6552343)
Make V8's more efficient and lighten the vehicle. ;)

well when the day comes when they make a 600hp car that gets 30mpg............................................. ......................

ShnOmac 05-16-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bw26ss (Post 6552348)
well when the day comes when they make a 600hp car that gets 30mpg............................................. ......................

Seems to me that we are going to see car's become more efficient in all categories so you won't need big HP to make a car perform. JMO

Extreme example... Think purpose built race cars. Lower HP but crazy performance.

bw26ss 05-16-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 6552365)
Seems to me that we are going to see car's become more efficient in all categories so you won't need big HP to make a car perform. JMO

Extreme example... Think purpose built race cars. Lower HP but crazy performance.

That is exactly my point to begin with, smaller cars, smaller motors, still just as fast:thumb:

ShnOmac 05-16-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bw26ss (Post 6552373)
That is exactly my point to begin with, smaller cars, smaller motors, still just as fast:thumb:

Got ya :thumb:

james347 05-16-2013 06:16 PM

Nope.

Synerbee 08-09-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bw26ss (Post 6552217)
Something everyone needs to understand, v8 muscle cars are going to be dinosaurs in a few years, so enjoy what you have, get ready for turbo 6's and 4's

GM just needs high MPG vehicles to outweigh the Corvette and the Camaro. All these ratings are fleet MPG.

newagemuscle 08-09-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bw26ss (Post 6552217)
Something everyone needs to understand, v8 muscle cars are going to be dinosaurs in a few years, so enjoy what you have, get ready for turbo 6's and 4's

I will have to say I agree... it's probably just a matter of time the way things are looking.

MIZL1 09-24-2013 09:58 PM

I think 2016 will bring a new camaro with fewer models, look at the corvette, six models of the same, z06 is coming a year or two later. No supercharged camaro in 2016, hood clearance is an issue and turbos are the way of the future. After all 2014 camaro is a facelift year except ZL1 front clip. Big cubes are faaaaaaading!

OldScoolCamaro 09-24-2013 10:08 PM

..I say no ....for now, thats Corvette territorty for the forseable future until we get the lowdown on the LS6/LS7 and ZR1 models. We'll get a better picture from there.

danl 10-05-2013 09:20 PM

I hope the 6th gen will get a v-8.
its all based on the alpha, and the ATS does not have a v-8 at all, just a TTv-6 as their top of the line. ( I went to GM Cadillac web site for 2014, and that is the top engine. . only 4 bangers, and 2 v-6 models.
So we may not get the v-8 option at all. It may just be a pipe dream.
DAM CAFE, and Obama. has nothing with us finding oil on US soil. the government has a hair stuck up their ass to get rid of all big engines. In past years, smaller motors was the answer to the oil scare, now, its not even that, its big brother just flexing its muscles to make everyone in the 'free world' do their bidding.
at this, I even wish they would bring back a decent 5.0, and that could work well with the smaller, lighter, more nimble camaro.
I believe that day will come, when the mighty vette will have to lose its v-8. the manufacturer car wars will continue with smaller 4 bangers, as v-8 will be long gone, and possibly, the v-6 too. I think a v-6 would live on, as a truck engine, since they have to haul some heavy loads. a 4 banger would certainly not do well pulling heavy loads.

Bhobbs 10-05-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by danl (Post 7067126)
I hope the 6th gen will get a v-8.
its all based on the alpha, and the ATS does not have a v-8 at all, just a TTv-6 as their top of the line. ( I went to GM Cadillac web site for 2014, and that is the top engine. . only 4 bangers, and 2 v-6 models.
So we may not get the v-8 option at all. It may just be a pipe dream.
DAM CAFE, and Obama. has nothing with us finding oil on US soil. the government has a hair stuck up their ass to get rid of all big engines. In past years, smaller motors was the answer to the oil scare, now, its not even that, its big brother just flexing its muscles to make everyone in the 'free world' do their bidding.
at this, I even wish they would bring back a decent 5.0, and that could work well with the smaller, lighter, more nimble camaro.
I believe that day will come, when the mighty vette will have to lose its v-8. the manufacturer car wars will continue with smaller 4 bangers, as v-8 will be long gone, and possibly, the v-6 too. I think a v-6 would live on, as a truck engine, since they have to haul some heavy loads. a 4 banger would certainly not do well pulling heavy loads.

The Alpha fits a V8.

JusticePete 10-10-2013 07:53 PM

The Alpha chassis was designed to accommodate a V8 and you'll see it in the Alpha CTS-V. I do find it interesting that there are so many thinking the V8 is a thing of the past. The LT V8 will be with GM products for at least the production cycle of the just released trucks, C7 and coming SUVs. When the 6th Gen rolls out, there are numerous engine options available - turbo 4, V6 NA, V6 TT and of course a range of V8s. Listening to the rumor mills there is a 427 headed into the C7 Z06. With the 6th Gen Camaro production cycle two year or so behind the others the LT will be with us for 7 or 8 years ata minimum.

What I hear GM saying is that the V8 isn't going away, but the price of a V8 powered vehicle will be going up.

hockeylover86 10-11-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by v8 (Post 6552206)
Who knows if Ford will stay with superchargers? Everyone may go with turbo in the future as it is more efficient

Its been discussed over on the Ford boards that they won't use the superchargers anymore and will move toward turbos.

The reason given is packaging.

The new Mustang is supposed to be a "global" car, and to do so it must pass European pedestrian collision regulations. The supercharger engine package is too tall to meet this standard.

Bhobbs 10-11-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 7082878)
The Alpha chassis was designed to accommodate a V8 and you'll see it in the Alpha CTS-V. I do find it interesting that there are so many thinking the V8 is a thing of the past. The LT V8 will be with GM products for at least the production cycle of the just released trucks, C7 and coming SUVs. When the 6th Gen rolls out, there are numerous engine options available - turbo 4, V6 NA, V6 TT and of course a range of V8s. Listening to the rumor mills there is a 427 headed into the C7 Z06. With the 6th Gen Camaro production cycle two year or so behind the others the LT will be with us for 7 or 8 years ata minimum.

What I hear GM saying is that the V8 isn't going away, but the price of a V8 powered vehicle will be going up.

I like the sound of those rumor mills.

OldScoolCamaro 10-12-2013 08:53 PM

...we have not seen the hand to be played by the C7 'Vette yet. So, we must stand pat until that time. In my heart of hearts in future speculation I say no.


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