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grocerygetter 01-09-2014 01:53 PM

Z06 powerplant for ZL1
 
If indeed the ZL1 sticks around...the debut of the Z06 engine is right around the corner and it is a rumored 620/650 horse FI LT power plant. You guys think that Chevy would hit the easy button on it and make it a ZL1 option for 2016 or 2017?
just bored and speculating.

oklapike 01-09-2014 02:09 PM

Considering there's supposed to be an even higher output FI LT engine in work, I would think so. Question is, how much will they de-tune it from the Z06 numbers?

BaylorCamaro 01-09-2014 02:32 PM

Well with Ford one upping Chevy with the GT500, I'm sure the ZL1 will get more power soon.

OK2DRUL 01-09-2014 02:41 PM

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Well with Ford one upping Chevy with the GT500, I'm sure the ZL1 will get more power soon.
I agree with you here. Chevy has done a great job with the interiors and suspension out performing Ford. Now it's time to increase the powerplant to make sure it out performs in all categories. To see the strides that GM has made as a whole in it's product lines recently I wouldn't be surprised if we see it sooner than later.

forklord 01-09-2014 04:20 PM

One upped with the gt500? Raw power is the only one up in that category, imo.

Chevy has so many models/packages out now or coming soon...hard to know what theyre thinking! New series of engines too. Its very exciting tho. Whenever the camaro gets the lt1 (6th gen?) I think theyll be ready to bump the zl1 at the same time. The lsa is a different block and heads than the ls3 right? so maybe theyll go the same route and have its own powerplant? Maybe complete factory forged internals??? Forged pistons in lt1 at least?? ?...One can dream....

BaylorCamaro 01-09-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by forklord (Post 7323393)
One upped with the gt500? Raw power is the only one up in that category, imo.

Oh I completely agree, which is why I have a ZL1 and not a GT500. BUT the fact still remains, Chevy came out with the 2012 ZL1 which surpassed the GT500 in power. However Ford then returned the favor by greatly surpassing the ZL1's power. My point is, I'm sure we will see the ZL1 get additional power soon.

Tampa Tuning 01-09-2014 04:53 PM

I think your see additional power made to the LSA power plant to up the horsepower first to 580-600HP range for a year or two, then discontinue it for the LT engine series.

Phil

Camaro_Corvette 01-09-2014 04:58 PM

Don't expect it in the first year of production.

OldScoolCamaro 01-09-2014 08:30 PM

...we have reached the beginning of the uber $ platteu for special high performance. Blue collar is fast being removed from the affordability range, but that was pretold, and we knew it was coming.

2012-1822 01-12-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 7324058)
...we have reached the beginning of the uber $ platteu for special high performance. Blue collar is fast being removed from the affordability range, but that was pretold, and we knew it was coming.

I can't say how affordable, exactly, a 69 SS Camaro was new for the common guy, but that ZL1 option back then was that much again on top of the car. I don't see much difference today. We still have affordable, sort of*, models and then you can double the price and get a performance model.

I've often wondered not where the price stops but where there HP plateaus off. How high does it go before they say enough is enough. Last time this happened the gas crisis and government emissions regulations kicked in. What now?


*I put an this puppy up there to say that we still have affordable cars, sort of. Well, with the addition of extra safety equipment and amenities that cars didn't use to have, there isn't really a good cheap option anymore. I remember in the late 90's you could still get a brand new 4 banger S10 pickup for $8000 or so on sale. Not no more. Cars are safer, that's true, but that comes, literally, at a price.

mhoskins76 01-12-2014 02:39 PM

I'm not too sure that they will make a huge power increase. They will increase it but with the new CAFE rules coming in the future years they have to be careful in how much the fuel mileage is affected.

I really think they should improve on the handling of the car and make it more like the 1LE or even the Z/28. Plus they don't want to move the price too high and bring it closer to the Z/28. There is many model variations of the car and it sure is nice to have "options" as a consumer.

oldfriend 01-12-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012-1822 (Post 7330775)
I can't say how affordable, exactly, a 69 SS Camaro was new for the common guy, but that ZL1 option back then was that much again on top of the car. I don't see much difference today. We still have affordable, sort of*, models and then you can double the price and get a performance model.

I've often wondered not where the price stops but where there HP plateaus off. How high does it go before they say enough is enough. Last time this happened the gas crisis and government emissions regulations kicked in. What now?


*I put an this puppy up there to say that we still have affordable cars, sort of. Well, with the addition of extra safety equipment and amenities that cars didn't use to have, there isn't really a good cheap option anymore. I remember in the late 90's you could still get a brand new 4 banger S10 pickup for $8000 or so on sale. Not no more. Cars are safer, that's true, but that comes, literally, at a price.

You could still have those 4 bangers pickup trucks today
The problem would be that very few could still get them in the USA , it would have to be build in China , Bangladesh etc and very few people around here will still have jobs at the industry , take a pick !

IH8OPEC 01-12-2014 08:40 PM

A birdie told me to look at the Cadillac ATS platform for an idea of the Gen 6 Camaro size! (Most likely the ELR coupe) I'm not sure there's room for an LS3 let alone a FI LT engine in that engine bay.

But you can get a 400+ hp factory twin turbo V6 in there!

RLHMARINES 01-12-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IH8OPEC (Post 7331776)
A birdie told me to look at the Cadillac ATS platform for an idea of the Gen 6 Camaro size! (Most likely the ELR coupe) I'm not sure there's room for an LS3 let alone a FI LT engine in that engine bay.

But you can get a 400+ hp factory twin turbo V6 in there!

The Alpha chassis was designed for a V8 from the start.


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