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AKA-22

02-08-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by meissen (Post 6134127)

The problem that most of the close minded folks who think only a v8 belongs in the Camaro is that they don't realize that if the Camaro was v8 only there would not be enough business justification for the vehicle to exist. Without the v6, there would be no Camaro. Period.

Furthermore, my 1994 Camaro was a v6 when I bought it. I'm now one of the most passionate Camaro enthusiasts you'll meet. I run a Michigan-based Camaro and Firebird website with over 2300 members, I host a 300+ Camaro and Firebird specific car show every year, go to a ton of shows through the "car show season" in Michigan, registered on basically every Camaro forum on the internet, etc. Because of my '94 Camaro v6, I am likewise passionate about General Motors in general which made me work extra hard to get a job at General Motors world headquarters in Detroit. I eat, breathe, sleep GM and Camaro. I cannot imagine NOT owning at least one Camaro now for the rest of my life... And all that because of a v6...

So when I found out I could afford a 5th gen if I went with the base, 1LS model... Yeah, I didn't hesitate. :laugh:

AMEN BROTHER!!!:thumbup:

Norm Peterson

02-08-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Larz29 (Post 6132053)

Why would anyone want a 4 cyl camaro?? Sounds a bit lame.

Because for lots of folks, hardcore performance and even the characteristic V8 rumble does not mean much. "Peppy" performance, sure, and 260-ish HP and torque is entirely sufficient to give you that in a 3400-ish lb car and satisfy the vast majority of car buyers. Trust me on this point.

It's just that it's hard to see how people can think that way when you're a member of a forum with countless threads devoted to tunes, supercharging, and "which exhaust should I get". It really is hard to see the "non-enthusiast" mindset.

And like was said at least once already, all those people who would support the Camaro platform by buying it in 4-cylinder trim would be making it possible for you to have it in any trim at all. I wouldn't diss their choice so lightly.

Norm

KMPrenger

02-08-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6135171)

Just an observation....seems like whenever a discussion over this I-4 in a Camaro comes up, it's praises as a respectable performance motor are only made after elaborate modifications have been added....Sure, you can probably mod the heck out of something for greater numbers, but in stock form, as it will probably be made, won't even be close to those...sort of defeats the affordable, entry-level argument...

I guess it depends on the person's views of "respectable performance".

Even at stock numbers with 260 - 280HP/TQ, in a 3,3xx lb car would likely be a low 6 second 0 - 60, and mid 14 second 1/4 mile car. I think thats respectable for a base 4-cylinder car. If they decide to bump the numbers into the 300s, well then it will likely be as fast or faster than todays V6.

Norm Peterson

02-08-2013 08:57 AM

Subaru's Legacy 2.5 GT (3400-ish, 260-ish) is a high 13 second car (and low 5's to 60 mph). At anything above about 2000 rpm where the boost has started to come in, you'd never guess it was "only a 4" by the seat of the pants feel.

Chevy could do far worse than target that range of performance for an I4 Camaro (and as an I4 it would have a far more pleasant exhaust note than Subaru's H4).

Norm

Goo	02-08-2013 09:04 AM

You guys do realize it wouldn't be the first time Camaro had 4 cylinders?...

MikeSVX

02-08-2013 09:20 AM

Ask the guys that were buying 4 cylinder Mustangs in the 80's. Cheap, cheap, cheap. Insurance and fuel......

mikeyg36

02-08-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue10CamaroSS (Post 6135212)

Of course not. It's just simply any other color Camaro that got old and needs AARP :sm0:

:mad0233:

revychevy

02-08-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gibroni (Post 6136313)

That's a ridiculous statement. Here's a no cylinder car that blows the doors off your Camaro:

I get that a lot of you guys like low displacement turbo green cars, but why do you need to attack a guy who says he would only buy the V8? That's what he likes. A lot of us like it. If no one wanted to buy a V8 version of this car we wouldn't need anything but a Malibu. Showing a $150,000 electric super car means nothing. Might as well show a Bugatti.

revychevy

02-08-2013 11:54 AM

Hey, here's an idea. Why not make a small turbo 4 banger like a Cobalt SS with one of their econo cars? Because if they turn the Camaro into a Cobalt or worse a Leaf then I will be in the market for a Mustang, Challenger or whoever is still making muscle cars. There are probably others who think like me. Not knocking your choice however, drive a lawn mower if you want, or a Kia hamster mobile. I like big displacement NA V8. Sue me.

90503

02-08-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by revychevy (Post 6137043)

What I see, is if this small displacement I-4 engine is such a great thing, they are a dime a dozen in existing makes of smaller, lighter platforms...If someone is such a fan of these engines, I don't see why they "need" to be put into a Camaro...

...I disagree with the argument that these cars need a small engine for the V-8 to even be available, (as if the fours and sixes were doing us a favor)...I see it the other way around, the V-8 gives the car it's appeal, and the Camaro wouldn't have been built if it weren't for the V-8, not the other way around...

I saw the thread that showed the production numbers for the 2011-2012 Camaros...as I re-call, the V-6 was not a runaway majority, it was fairly even....

2010-1SS-IBM

02-08-2013 11:59 AM

I can't imagine why anyone would want a 4 cylinder Camaro. I can see wanting a 4 cylinder in a car designed for a 4 cylinder engine, but I really don't see the point in bastardizing a car made for muscle.

A lot of posters seem to think everyone against the 4 cylinder Camaro are neanderthals. We're really pragmatists. We know what introducing a 4 cylinder means for V8 enthusiasts; watered-down performance and bullshit.

And yes, it's been done before. It wasn't good.

revychevy

02-08-2013 12:33 PM

For every person who thinks chevy will make a WRX Sti, 3 more think it will be the Iron Duke.

lbls1

02-08-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibroni (Post 6136313)

That's a ridiculous statement. Here's a no cylinder car that blows the doors off your Camaro:

How is that a ridiculous statement?? Why would anyone care if a 4 cyl. car could outrun a camaro (such as a porsche.....they've been around for decades)?

Putting a 4 cyl. engine in a camaro variant that has historically been themed as a v8 performace car (such as an SS or a Z28) to me is ridiculous because it is a compromise on the heritage of the car. The performace camaro is more (believe it or not) than just sheer numbers. The v8 camaro represents a sound, feel, persona of camaros past and present that has been characterized by their v8 motors, and as such, that persona would have very slim or no odds of being equally replicated by a different engine configuration. Its my opinion, and to me it is not a ridiculous statement.

Your reply, however, leaves a lot to be desired.

Cymaro

02-08-2013 01:07 PM

This thread makes me want to start a "Why did you get a V6 Camaro?" thread

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