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shaffe 03-08-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MBS (Post 6259326)
Seems a bit quick to me, Car came out in 2010 it is now 2013 , i would think at least 3-4 years maybe more . I do like that pic , car looks awesome , But once again i wont beleive anything till GM puts it out .

Yeah BUT the concept for the current style has been around since 2006. so the style has been around for a while. Also with a new Mustang around the corner, GM will need to refresh the Camaro to keep it exciting until the new model is ready.

Billabongi 03-08-2013 01:02 PM

I'd be happy to see this generation of car last until 2017 for the 50th anniversary. I think generation is ideally suited for a 50th Anniversary car, but granted NO ONE really knows what the next generation is going to look like. Just going off the sketches i like this one much better.

MikeT 03-08-2013 01:20 PM

God bless you guys who, for whatever reasons, are hoping the next Camaro is delayed until the 2017 model year... but you're dreaming.

GM has flat-out told the Canadian Auto Workers that Camaro production is ending in Oshawa in 2015. Period. Anyone who knows anything about the automobile business knows that you don't antagonize the unions just for s---s and giggles. Not worth the headaches. If they say the Camaro is moving to Lansing in 2015, they mean it.

And, obviously, they're not going to be building the current Camaro in Lansing alongside the ATS and the CTS, but rather the next Camaro.

shaffe 03-08-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Billabongi (Post 6262178)
I'd be happy to see this generation of car last until 2017 for the 50th anniversary. I think generation is ideally suited for a 50th Anniversary car, but granted NO ONE really knows what the next generation is going to look like. Just going off the sketches i like this one much better.


7 Years is way to long for a car to be around . If you look at most car companies, cars change every 4-5 years it seems.

The_Blur 03-08-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Billabongi (Post 6262178)
I'd be happy to see this generation of car last until 2017 for the 50th anniversary. I think generation is ideally suited for a 50th Anniversary car, but granted NO ONE really knows what the next generation is going to look like. Just going off the sketches i like this one much better.

It would be smarter marketing to offer a new generation immediately before or after a major milestone to artificially boost sales numbers in a model year with no other significance.

KMPrenger 03-08-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeT (Post 6262233)
God bless you guys who, for whatever reasons, are hoping the next Camaro is delayed until the 2017 model year... but you're dreaming.

GM has flat-out told the Canadian Auto Workers that Camaro production is ending in Oshawa in 2015. Period. Anyone who knows anything about the automobile business knows that you don't antagonize the unions just for s---s and giggles. Not worth the headaches. If they say the Camaro is moving to Lansing in 2015, they mean it.

And, obviously, they're not going to be building the current Camaro in Lansing alongside the ATS and the CTS, but rather the next Camaro.

You are right. The Camaro is moving the Lansing. So based on that statement, if they aren't actually firing up production of Camaro there until sometime in 2015, that means the next gen Camaro will be a 2016 model, maybe a late 2016 model depending on when production begins, like the 2012 ZL1.

Bhobbs 03-08-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger (Post 6262794)
You are right. The Camaro is moving the Lansing. So based on that statement, if they aren't actually firing up production of Camaro there until sometime in 2015, that means the next gen Camaro will be a 2016 model, maybe a late 2016 model depending on when production begins, like the 2012 ZL1.

Well, since the cars are being built at two different plants, the first 6th gen could roll off the line at the same time as the last 5th gen. I doubt that would happen but it's still a possibility.

90503 03-08-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6262959)
Well, since the cars are being built at two different plants, the first 6th gen could roll off the line at the same time as the last 5th gen. I doubt that would happen but it's still a possibility.

Interesting...Don't know how flexible they need to be as far as when the last cars roll off, or if it's written in stone when they will shut down no matter what...
...I would think they'd pump out as many as possible up to the last minute...just in case there were "delays" at the new plant....

MrBowTi3 03-08-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MBS (Post 6259326)
Seems a bit quick to me, Car came out in 2010 it is now 2013 , i would think at least 3-4 years maybe more . I do like that pic , car looks awesome , But once again i wont beleive anything till GM puts it out .

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Originally Posted by shaffe (Post 6261915)
Yeah BUT the concept for the current style has been around since 2006. so the style has been around for a while. Also with a new Mustang around the corner, GM will need to refresh the Camaro to keep it exciting until the new model is ready.


the car went into production in 2009

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Originally Posted by MikeT (Post 6262233)
God bless you guys who, for whatever reasons, are hoping the next Camaro is delayed until the 2017 model year... but you're dreaming.

GM has flat-out told the Canadian Auto Workers that Camaro production is ending in Oshawa in 2015. Period. Anyone who knows anything about the automobile business knows that you don't antagonize the unions just for s---s and giggles. Not worth the headaches. If they say the Camaro is moving to Lansing in 2015, they mean it.

And, obviously, they're not going to be building the current Camaro in Lansing alongside the ATS and the CTS, but rather the next Camaro.

Too add to this why in the hell would you pay your employees to learn how to build a car for one year just to change the car and have to pay for them to learn how to build it :iono: must be too much like right for some to accept

OldScoolCamaro 03-08-2013 07:11 PM

...in my mind no way will Oshawa retool and then have it built by Lansing the following year.

midnighter 03-08-2013 07:13 PM

New grills, lights, interior more than likely. New motors probably not until 6th gen.

90503 03-08-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 6263453)
...in my mind no way will Oshawa retool and then have it built by Lansing the following year.

Oh, for sure...lol...I was referring to the end of the Gen5 production and the overlap (if any) with the Gen6 in Lansing....

OldScoolCamaro 03-08-2013 08:55 PM

...yes, no overlap will happen, refresh cosmetic for sure, news release? Lets see.....probably another half year special issue edition...427 1LE perhaps, or even the Z/28, which I doubt. But, in three weeks we know for sure!

*007 03-09-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 6263842)
...yes, no overlap will happen, refresh cosmetic for sure, news release? Lets see.....probably another half year special issue edition...427 1LE perhaps, or even the Z/28, which I doubt. But, in three weeks we know for sure!

Sources tell me the opposite. Slightly shaken please. Z28 IS coming.

OldScoolCamaro 03-09-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by *007 (Post 6267337)
Sources tell me the opposite. Slightly shaken please. Z28 IS coming.

...Q asks what your sources are....LOL...:biggrin:

KMPrenger 03-10-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 6263453)
...in my mind no way will Oshawa retool and then have it built by Lansing the following year.

Re-tool? There is no need to re-tool anything for a minor re-fresh which is what the changes will be. They will likely just be slapping on a slightly different front fascia and rear end or rear diffuser.

The Camaro IS going to Lansing.

shaffe 03-11-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBowTi3 (Post 6263423)
the car went into production in 2009



Too add to this why in the hell would you pay your employees to learn how to build a car for one year just to change the car and have to pay for them to learn how to build it :iono: must be too much like right for some to accept

I know the car went into production in 2009. But Its pretty damn close to the concept that debuted in 06, and the vert concept that debuted in 07 before finally coming to production in 09. Just my opinion, this style has been around a while and to me its getting boring. Thats just me though

KarFan 03-11-2013 03:57 PM

A model refresh for 5th Gen won't change the timing of the 6th Gen.

OldScoolCamaro 03-11-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger (Post 6269909)
Re-tool? There is no need to re-tool anything for a minor re-fresh which is what the changes will be. They will likely just be slapping on a slightly different front fascia and rear end or rear diffuser.

The Camaro IS going to Lansing.

...you misread my post....sorry you posted in error....:sorry:

Casperadub70 03-12-2013 07:47 AM

Im not sure if anyone has thought of the history of Camaros.
67-69 3 years
70-81 lasted for 11 years with a few changes on the way
82-92 lasted 10 years with a few changes
93-02 lasted 9 years with a fairly big change in 97-98 but still kept the basic body.
10-13. Its only been 3 years.
I would think its just time for a minor change and a few more years of the same body.
Just my two cents

Wizard1183 03-12-2013 09:13 AM

So when is the alpha platform going to be used? Because that will be a different car. Not a refresh but a new modeled camaro.

Bhobbs 03-12-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Casperadub70 (Post 6275877)
Im not sure if anyone has thought of the history of Camaros.
67-69 3 years
70-81 lasted for 11 years with a few changes on the way
82-92 lasted 10 years with a few changes
93-02 lasted 9 years with a fairly big change in 97-98 but still kept the basic body.
10-13. Its only been 3 years.
I would think its just time for a minor change and a few more years of the same body.
Just my two cents

It's actually 4 years. Model years '10, '11, '12 and '13 with a '14 refresh and '15 final year. Camaro production will shift to Lansing some time in 2015, probably for the '16 model year.

FenwickHockey65 03-12-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183 (Post 6276104)
So when is the alpha platform going to be used? Because that will be a different car. Not a refresh but a new modeled camaro.

2015-ish.

Wizard1183 03-12-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6276761)
It's actually 4 years. Model years '10, '11, '12 and '13 with a '14 refresh and '15 final year. Camaro production will shift to Lansing some time in 2015, probably for the '16 model year.

Exactly! And that 2016 will be an alpha platformed new modeled camaro. Totally revamped.

MikeT 03-12-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6276761)
Model years '10, '11, '12 and '13 with a '14 refresh and '15 final year. Camaro production will shift to Lansing some time in 2015, probably for the '16 model year.

So, the current Camaro will have had a nice 6-year run. That's just about perfect, IMO. Long enough so that no one who wants one should be complaining that it wasn't available long enough. But not so long as to get stale.


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