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MBS 03-07-2013 07:54 PM

Seems a bit quick to me, Car came out in 2010 it is now 2013 , i would think at least 3-4 years maybe more . I do like that pic , car looks awesome , But once again i wont beleive anything till GM puts it out .

jkupa10 03-07-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Baron (Post 6258080)
Lol mis unformed.. do any of you have any idea how much it costs to do a mid model facelift.. it isn't something you do if your releasing a brand new platform in a year. The new camaro WILL NoT HIT THE GROUND before a new cts.. the cts and camaro are again going to be built I n the same platform and that car isn't hitting rhe ground until 2016.. the gen 6 is going to be a 2017 model.. wht would they wait.. hmm I don't know, maybe for the 50th.. naa. That makes way sense huh?

I'm surprised how many residents of Warren and Milford we have in this thread...

meissen 03-08-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 (Post 6258336)
Nobody's saying it will. CTS debuts at the end of this month and will be in production by the end of the year. Camaro will probably be around the 2015 timeframe.

And Camaro will most likely be on SWB Alpha, not LWB Alpha like the CTS.

Anniversary years are a stupid thing to base future product predictions off of. It makes no difference.

Not really. The average is closer to 5. Seven is way too long compared to the rest of the industry, and the bankruptcy delayed a lot of the current programs.

To the OP - Fenwick is one of the most informed guys when it comes to the "heartbeat" of GM and their products. His opinion/information is usually spot on. I would listen to him. It's been publicly stated that the Camaro will be moving production to the Lansing plant by mid to late 2015. Do you really think they'd build a Zeta platform vehicle at a plant which is producing Alpha vehicles? :pop2:

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Originally Posted by jkupa10 (Post 6259362)
I'm surprised how many residents of Warren and Milford we have in this thread...

:lol:

Ir0nM4n 03-08-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger (Post 6255205)
If they end up going with the Leno front end...I may be saying bye bye to my heritage grille, and street scene lower grille.....and the entire bumper lol.

Exactly!!!:hail:

ssmike 03-08-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by v8 (Post 6258183)
I think there is a new engine coming, well not new, but new to the Camaro:emoticon11:

LT1 detuned to 440HP? I see this as a very good possibility, not only a few cosmetic changes but throw some excitement into the mix like a little added HP to keep the interest up!

Bhobbs 03-08-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ssmike (Post 6261152)
LT1 detuned to 440HP? I see this as a very good possibility, not only a few cosmetic changes but throw some excitement into the mix like a little added HP to keep the interest up!

Why should we accept a detuned LT1?

meissen 03-08-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6261549)
Why should we accept a detuned LT1?

Because most v8 engines the Camaro inherits from the Corvette is detuned. If they released the base v8 Camaro with the same horsepower as the Corvette then the corvette snobs will ride their high horses to GM and complain.

Bhobbs 03-08-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by meissen (Post 6261571)
Because most v8 engines the Camaro inherits from the Corvette is detuned. If they released the base v8 Camaro with the same horsepower as the Corvette then the corvette snobs will ride their high horses to GM and complain.

I get what you are saying but LS1 Camaros dyno'd more than what they were rated at. It's more likely that GM just throws a different HP number on the Camaro and blames it on more restrictive exhaust.

shaffe 03-08-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MBS (Post 6259326)
Seems a bit quick to me, Car came out in 2010 it is now 2013 , i would think at least 3-4 years maybe more . I do like that pic , car looks awesome , But once again i wont beleive anything till GM puts it out .

Yeah BUT the concept for the current style has been around since 2006. so the style has been around for a while. Also with a new Mustang around the corner, GM will need to refresh the Camaro to keep it exciting until the new model is ready.

Billabongi 03-08-2013 01:02 PM

I'd be happy to see this generation of car last until 2017 for the 50th anniversary. I think generation is ideally suited for a 50th Anniversary car, but granted NO ONE really knows what the next generation is going to look like. Just going off the sketches i like this one much better.

MikeT 03-08-2013 01:20 PM

God bless you guys who, for whatever reasons, are hoping the next Camaro is delayed until the 2017 model year... but you're dreaming.

GM has flat-out told the Canadian Auto Workers that Camaro production is ending in Oshawa in 2015. Period. Anyone who knows anything about the automobile business knows that you don't antagonize the unions just for s---s and giggles. Not worth the headaches. If they say the Camaro is moving to Lansing in 2015, they mean it.

And, obviously, they're not going to be building the current Camaro in Lansing alongside the ATS and the CTS, but rather the next Camaro.

shaffe 03-08-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Billabongi (Post 6262178)
I'd be happy to see this generation of car last until 2017 for the 50th anniversary. I think generation is ideally suited for a 50th Anniversary car, but granted NO ONE really knows what the next generation is going to look like. Just going off the sketches i like this one much better.


7 Years is way to long for a car to be around . If you look at most car companies, cars change every 4-5 years it seems.

The_Blur 03-08-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Billabongi (Post 6262178)
I'd be happy to see this generation of car last until 2017 for the 50th anniversary. I think generation is ideally suited for a 50th Anniversary car, but granted NO ONE really knows what the next generation is going to look like. Just going off the sketches i like this one much better.

It would be smarter marketing to offer a new generation immediately before or after a major milestone to artificially boost sales numbers in a model year with no other significance.

KMPrenger 03-08-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeT (Post 6262233)
God bless you guys who, for whatever reasons, are hoping the next Camaro is delayed until the 2017 model year... but you're dreaming.

GM has flat-out told the Canadian Auto Workers that Camaro production is ending in Oshawa in 2015. Period. Anyone who knows anything about the automobile business knows that you don't antagonize the unions just for s---s and giggles. Not worth the headaches. If they say the Camaro is moving to Lansing in 2015, they mean it.

And, obviously, they're not going to be building the current Camaro in Lansing alongside the ATS and the CTS, but rather the next Camaro.

You are right. The Camaro is moving the Lansing. So based on that statement, if they aren't actually firing up production of Camaro there until sometime in 2015, that means the next gen Camaro will be a 2016 model, maybe a late 2016 model depending on when production begins, like the 2012 ZL1.


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