2016 6th Gen SS (V8) "Upgrades"...
Just curious...If the new Gen6 is smaller, lighter, handles better, etc., how would the hp/torq/0-60, etc. compare to the Gen5?...I've heard code numbers for other V-8's (LS7, whatever), what are we talking in c.i. or horsepower?...Will the LS3 or L99 be unchanged in the Gen6...
(Sort of burned out on the I-4 thing, so what about the "big-dog" engines that may go in the Gen6?)...Thanks... |
I think the LT1 will probably find its way into the Gen6. We don't know how much HP/TQ it will have when certified, but if GM's estimates of 450 are right then it should be very impressive in an approximately 300 lb lighter car. Only time will tell if the alpha platform is the choice for the Camaro and if you can fit an LT1 in it. I'm hopeful.
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Agree with gretchen. LT1 should make its way into the 6th gen. With the lighter weight there wouldn't have to be any more power than the current car to be a better performer...especially since the LT1 makes even better torque down low than the LS3 and L99 do.
If it comes in at 450/450 it will be a killer machine. |
Sorry for not knowing...but an LT1 is a what...V-8,...6.2 liter?...crank hp?...currently being used in Vettes???....a newer version of LS3?...
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It is a brand new Gen V small block used in the C7 Vette. It is 6.2 liters with direct injection, VVT, and the dreaded AFM. GM estimates it with 450 HP 450 TQ. Apparently the torque curve is close to the LS7.
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Read the above links...thanks, boys...(sounds like they were written by the same guy, or they paraphrased the same press release...lol)...Anyway, sounds like a "better" engine...
...Didn't see any disclaimer about the AFM not being in manual cars...it was mentioned as akin to the L99 ...(Not sure what the case is with the 'Vettes)...AFM with a manual trans, would that even be possible?... |
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One of the big things is the difference in power curves between DI and non DI engines. If you look at a dyno graph the HP has a curve where the TQ is flat in the DI engine. I believe the AFM will be used just to save on the GG tax. |
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The ZR1 does ... But who know as far as the 2014, prices haven't been released yet. |
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Wow...If AFM is on all V-8 LT1 Gen6 Camaros...that is cause for concern...maybe the Vette boys have found a way around it already, or perhaps soon...
On another note, this direct injection business.....the LFX V-6 Camaros have that already...(seems to be a plus), but also means no after-market headers????...wonder if the same would be the case on direct-injection LT1s... |
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Does the Camaro and Corvette share the same engine? From what I understood, the ZR1 has the LS9, the Z06 has the LS7. Does the base Corvette have the LS3? If it does, I would have imagined the Camaro SS having an "inferior" engine in comparison to the base Corvette.
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...any rumors, or whatever about other V-8 options?...LS7? LS3, is done with?...Could these be special ordered???...just hoping some V-8 would be available without AFM... |
LT4 will probably work its way into the 6th gen eventually.
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Well let's just say the Gen V V8 is very friendly with forced induction.
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I don't really know what to expect with the LS3. I don't think it will go away immediately, but GM is going the migrate everything over to the Gen V motors at some point. We will probably see the LS3 and L99 through the rest of the 5th Gen Camaro runs. We may see the L99 popup in some other platforms before it is retired. It's all really hard to guess, but we know ultimately GM will replace the Gen IV motors with the Gen V motors. |
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The V6 DI engines are capable of making some pretty impressive power figures with just 6 - 8 psi of boost. (450+ HP at the crank) But past that amount of boost, we typically see fuel issues where the stock pump can't keep up. That same small amount of boost on a modern V8 DI engine should be super impressive. |
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But...as long as your crystal ball is polished - you're guess is as good as mine! |
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This is short...:) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LT_engine |
AFM on the 2014 stringray with have the option of turning on or off by the owner.
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The skinny is that they are pitting the LF3<3.6 L TT> against the LT1<naturally aspirated 6.2L>, and the LF3 against the LT1 with a supercharger (ala LT4, as mentioned previously, but not specified in the report by the same engine nomenclature) in the next Gen Cadillac's. Stay tuned.
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LT1 (with or without AFM, in either auto or manual trans)?, LT4 (Super-charged, turbo-charged)...Also, perhaps thinking incorrectly, that AFM is not "do-able" with some form of forced-induction..? Just sayin', an option list for V-8 engines would be awesome, and right up Chevy's reputation for being able to interchange engines....(Perhaps crystal ball is getting a little foggy here)...lol Quote:
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...These engines already exist, are "certified" or whatever...just sayin'... |
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All I meant my "variants" was...when GM rolls over a new generation of V8...there are always different versions, for different applications...car engines, truck engines, FE engines, HO engines, blown engines, etc, etc.... May not have an a la carte list on the 6th-gen...in fact, my money is on definitely not...but we can't assume that the engine the 6th-gen Camaro get will be THE LT-1...could be a different variant, like how Chevy upgraded the LS1 to the LS6 to the LS2 to the LS3 within 6-8 years....:iono: |
1LE type suspension as stock.
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