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RyanG 12-19-2012 10:23 AM

Official: 6th Gen Camaro Production to Move to U.S. Lansing Grand River Plant
 
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GM Press Release:

Next-Generation Chevy Camaro to Be Built in the U.S.

GM announced today the next-generation Chevrolet Camaro will be assembled at the Lansing Grand River (LGR) Assembly Plant in Lansing, Michigan. This decision is based on a comprehensive business case.

Lower capital investment and improved production efficiencies were key factors in the business case. The Camaro is the only rear-wheel drive (RWD) vehicle built at Oshawa. Assembling the next-generation Camaro at LGR consolidates the RWD assembly with the Cadillac CTS and ATS. As a result, GM will continue to deliver top-quality vehicles as efficiently as possible.

GM will continue to meet the production targets agreed to with the Canadian and Ontario governments during the 2009 restructuring.

Production of the current generation Chevrolet Camaro will continue on the flexible manufacturing line at Oshawa Assembly until the end of the current product lifecycle. The Buick Regal continues to be produced there, and GM recently invested $185 million to support the launch of two new products on the flex line as well: the all-new Cadillac XTS and the next-generation Chevrolet Impala scheduled to launch in 2013. In addition, GM recently announced it will add a third shift to support the launch of the new Impala there. The consolidated line at Oshawa Assembly will continue to produce the current generation Chevrolet Impala and Equinox until June 2014.

Source GM: http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2012/Dec/1219-camaro-statement.html
~Ryan

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Originally Posted by Added by Moderators @ 2:47EST
A message from the Camaro team:

Today, GM announced that production of the next-generation Camaro will move from Oshawa Assembly to Lansing, Mich. This will inevitably raise some questions and speculation about what the announcement means for the future of Camaro.

For now, we can tell you that it does mean Chevrolet is committed to the Camaro, and we are already planning for the arrival of the sixth-generation car. It does not mean we are ready to announce the timing of the next-generation, or to confirm any details about a future Camaro.

Introduced as a 2010 model year, the fifth-generation Camaro still continues to be a success thanks to fans like you -- and we are not done yet. This year alone, we launched the Camaro ZL1 coupe and convertible, the Camaro 1LE, and introduced the Camaro Hot Wheels edition. We still have more news to come, and expect the fifth-generation Camaro, built by the team in Oshawa, will continue to bring new people to the Camaro community.

Thanks for your support, and we look forward to sharing more Camaro news with you in the future.

Al Oppenheiser
Camaro Chief Engineer

John Fitzpatrick
Camaro Marketing Manager


2010 Camaro SS

ackeight 12-19-2012 10:29 AM

I wonder if the right to work laws played a part??

FenwickHockey65 12-19-2012 10:31 AM

More like Alpha-based cars are already being built at Lansing Grand River.

TooCool5 12-19-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 (Post 5934717)
More like Alpha-based cars are already being built at Lansing Grand River.

This.

yzrider58 12-19-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ackeight (Post 5934713)
I wonder if the right to work laws played a part??

If it did then Michigan is already reaping the benefits of right to work and personal freedom.

toesuf94 12-19-2012 10:39 AM

It will be nice to see it built stateside again. What happens to Oshawa? Get a new platform on the switchover or are they done up there? It seems that the plant was just redone not too long ago...cannot be obsolete yet can it?

BaylorCamaro 12-19-2012 10:44 AM

Interesting. Good to see it back in the states.

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FenwickHockey65 12-19-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by toesuf94 (Post 5934748)
It will be nice to see it built stateside again. What happens to Oshawa? Get a new platform on the switchover or are they done up there? It seems that the plant was just redone not too long ago...cannot be obsolete yet can it?

They'll maintain Epsilon-II production. Probably Equinox overflow as well.

ronss 12-19-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by yzrider58 (Post 5934740)
If it did then Michigan is already reaping the benefits of right to work and personal freedom.

Right on

midnighter 12-19-2012 11:02 AM

Is this a good thing?

akCamaross 12-19-2012 11:04 AM

Merica.

GaBoy25 12-19-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by akCamaross (Post 5934835)
Merica.


F yeah:D

Cruuzin LV 12-19-2012 11:12 AM

Maybe they built the new G8.. whatever GM decides to call it?

el ess A 12-19-2012 11:22 AM

I'm sure Oshawa is going to play a part in GM global manufacturing.

Look, they were built in the U.S. before, and they've been built in Canada for almost 1/2 the time the Camaro's been around. So to see them move the final assembly back to the states isn't majorly upsetting. Obviously it is to the Oshawa community, but apparently GM feels it makes better business sense going forward.

Personally, I think the alpha has a whole lot to do with it, but perhaps a little bit of right to work as well. It'll be interesting if any other alphas end up in Oshawa. If it does, then there may be other reasons.

wadew2lt 12-19-2012 11:25 AM

Hope it's not History repeating itself....

soloknight6 12-19-2012 11:30 AM

so, looks like we will see the sixth gen as a 2015 model.

PAUL SS 12-19-2012 11:37 AM

Oshawa will be fine, they do a great job and GM will keep them working. I am very proud of my Oshawa built Camaro, but I like the idea of the Camaro beong built stateside.

toesuf94 12-19-2012 11:39 AM

I love my Oshawa built SS...glad to see they are not shuttering the plant. They do great work up there.

ronss 12-19-2012 11:41 AM

Wow great for the people of Lansing it's a good thing. Grew up in Lansing worked at fisher body plant in the 60s and 70s help to build 442's cutlass and other great Oldsmobiles the people there will benefit greatly

JusticePete 12-19-2012 11:41 AM

GM to move Camaro production from Ontario to Lansing plant

By Melissa Burden
The Detroit News

The Camaro is a rear-wheel drive vehicle, as are the CTS and ATS, built in Lansing. (GM)

General Motors Co. will move production of the Chevrolet Camaro from Oshawa, Ontario, to its Lansing Grand River plant, the automaker announced Wednesday.

GM will move the next generation of the muscle car from Ontario to the Lansing plant, which builds the Cadillac CTS and ATS. The shift is likely to occur within a few years.

The last all-new Camaro came for the 2010 model year.

GM, in a statement, cited lower capital investments and production efficiencies as a key factor for moving production of the vehicle.

The Camaro is built in Oshawa on the same line as the Buick Regal and Cadillac XTS. Oshawa will build the next-generation Chevrolet Impala. Those cars are front-wheel drive models.

The Camaro is a rear-wheel drive vehicle, as are the CTS and ATS, built in Lansing, currently a two-shift plant.

Sales of the Camaro year-to-date through November are down 3.6 percent compared with the same period in 2011.

Karl Henkel contributed.

mburden@detnews.com

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2FWLCAZLR

daveagogo1 12-19-2012 11:44 AM

If it is then great. I only hope that it's built in Lansing with the same pride and quality it is built with in Oshawa. Mike Judge and the Oshawa crew are top notch. Both in building cars and within the Camaro community.

mattsfirstSS 12-19-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by daveagogo1 (Post 5934967)
If it is then great. I only hope that it's built in Lansing with the same pride and quality it is built with in Oshawa. Mike Judge and the Oshawa crew are top notch. Both in building cars and within the Camaro community.

THIS. i appreciate the work they do in Oshawa and their involvement in the camaro world hopefully the people in Lansing take the same pride in building them that we do in owning them. Im from Ohio so I have my doubts about the state up north :paddle:

daveagogo1 12-19-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mattsfirstSS (Post 5934995)
THIS. i appreciate the work they do in Oshawa and their involvement in the camaro world hopefully the people in Lansing take the same pride in building them that we do in owning them. Im from Ohio so I have my doubts about the state up north :paddle:

I am FROM Michigan and my dad worked at GM.

mattsfirstSS 12-19-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by daveagogo1 (Post 5935011)
I am FROM Michigan and my dad worked at GM.

:w00t:

trewyn15 12-19-2012 12:04 PM

about time...

United_727 12-19-2012 12:06 PM

Yet they import the E-body Caprice from Autralia...

el ess A 12-19-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 5934957)
The shift is likely to occur within a few years.

:iono: They need to hurry up unless they're going to delay the next gen. Few usually means 3, maybe 4. The '15s, if it's the next gen and falls in line with regular production schedules, should be in production in about 1.6 years.

More info needed on this one.

Angrybird 12 12-19-2012 12:20 PM

They may also be anticipating a higher demand for the Impala and will want to increase the capacity for its production in Oshawa. Or they did say at one time eventually the SS would be built over here instead of importing it from Australia.

RJT Impala 12-19-2012 12:35 PM

I'm kinda partial to Oshawa builds. My last four vehicles were born there--Camaro, 2 Impalas, and a Grand Prix. All were (are) outstanding quality! Quality is a "learned" process and can be transferred. Hope GM keeps Oshawa at the forefront.

Ajax Inferno 12-19-2012 12:49 PM

I'm sad to see the move of Camaro out of Oshawa. I live a couple kilometers from the plant. it was awesome to drive by the lot where the cars are parked waiting to have the stripes applied... see some of the first production runs of the ZL1 drive by. When I drive by in my SS there's a lot of pride!

There are valid and logical reasons for the move into the US. Though I'm sure many Canadian workers here feel it's just the same old "American Jobs Now" mentality of the corporation. I'm hopeful the incoming product lines into Oshawa will keep the workers going here. We need the jobs as much as anyone else.

I'm happy to see the US workers getting the needed jobs as well, believe me. We all need it!! I'm sure the workers will put as much pride into the 6th Gen Camaro coming up as the workers in Oshawa have with the 5th generation. I've talked to several and they are beaming with pride.

Heck my 2011 Cruze is made in OH and I can't say anything bad about my daily driver. It rocks too!

So please ladies and gentlemen, no bashing or bragging as I've seen in prior posts.... Camaro is and continues to be a fantastic car, no mater where it's made.... it's made with pride!

montreal2010yellow 12-19-2012 12:57 PM

I'm a Canadian and I regret this decision. I'm proud to own a Canadian built Camaro. I visited the plant in 2011 and we felt that the empoyes where very proud of their plant. But as the economy changes all of the time, I can't be against that. As long as they keep the Oshawa plant live, their role is to build cars. GM closed Ste-Therese Camaro-Firebird plant in 2002 and we lost thousands of jobs because of that closing and our Quebec economy suffered from that decision. The plant land is now a huge shopping center, but it does'nt generate the same amount of $$$ in our economy. Goverments saved GM from a bankruptcy with our taxes, I would have prefered that my taxes would have stayed in Canada. Buy Amerian,,,,,

velocity149 12-19-2012 12:57 PM

damn, that really sucks! I am really proud that the Camaro has been made in Oshawa for the run of the 5th gen, and was just talking to my friend the other day about going to the plant to se my 6th gen made when they are released and mine was ordered. This is probably going to destroy oshawa, as it looks like the Camaro is the leading car made here, and by the looks of the lots when theya re full, they are probably 70% camaros at any given time. damn, this is a nut shot to oshawa! :(

velocity149 12-19-2012 01:00 PM

and the old Oshawa truck plant... took away the sierra from us, and now it's a costco... what next?

MyIBMssRS 12-19-2012 01:23 PM

About time. I'm tired of hearing those overpaid Oshawa workers act like they're so high and mighty for watching machines build our cars. Oh, please give me a poster with some union workers name on it because they watched a machine tighten my lug nuts. :rolleyes:

Can't wait to buy my American made 50th anniversary 2017 Gen 6.

daveagogo1 12-19-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MyIBMssRS (Post 5935287)
About time. I'm tired of hearing those overpaid Oshawa workers act like they're so high and mighty for watching machines build our cars. Oh, please give me a poster with some union workers name on it because they watched a machine tighten my lug nuts. :rolleyes:

Can't wait to buy my American made 50th anniversary 2017 Gen 6.

I'm going to take a stab and guess you posted this with something other than a pre GUI OS system.

The sole purpose of that GUI is to make it easier. You can do many of the same functions without it. Same as building cars.

To each their own.

Verbolten 12-19-2012 01:33 PM

American workers are underpaid ????

AlohaBR 12-19-2012 01:33 PM

YES! Right around the corner from me!!
Oshawa did an OUTSTANDING job and I have no doubt they will continue.
Like it said it is a consolidation where the RWD Cadillac and Camaro will be built.

detamble13 12-19-2012 01:42 PM

As a Canadian this hurts... but at least it's not going to Mexico, although geographically it's now a little bit closer.
I know our American cousins can build just as good of a product and I wonder if this will improve sales in the states. Do people overlook an American pony car because it's built in Canada? Based on sales you wouldn't think so but they'll definitely be able to use this as an advertising tool to their biggest market.

Mr. Wyndham 12-19-2012 01:44 PM

Thoughts shared with us straight from John Fitzpatrick, and Al Oppenheiser from the Camaro Team:
Added to the OP

Quote:

Today, GM announced that production of the next-generation Camaro will move from Oshawa Assembly to Lansing, Mich. This will inevitably raise some questions and speculation about what the announcement means for the future of Camaro.

For now, we can tell you that it does mean Chevrolet is committed to the Camaro, and we are already planning for the arrival of the sixth-generation car. It does not mean we are ready to announce the timing of the next-generation, or to confirm any details about a future Camaro.

Introduced as a 2010 model year, the fifth-generation Camaro still continues to be a success thanks to fans like you -- and we are not done yet. This year alone, we launched the Camaro ZL1 coupe and convertible, the Camaro 1LE, and introduced the Camaro Hot Wheels edition. We still have more news to come, and expect the fifth-generation Camaro, built by the team in Oshawa, will continue to bring new people to the Camaro community.

Thanks for your support, and we look forward to sharing more Camaro news with you in the future.

Al Oppenheiser
Camaro Chief Engineer

John Fitzpatrick
Camaro Marketing Manager

Don't think of this as "good news" or "bad news"...rather...a change. According to the GM press release: A simple matter of a good business case for consolidating common cars for ease and cost of production! :clap:

Bottom line, IMO...1) we've still got years before this had any effect on us at all, and 2) GM & Chevy is "committed to Camaro"...but hey - it does feel good to know that Camaro will be built once more, after a loooong time, in the United States. :thumbsup:

Mr. Wyndham 12-19-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by velocity149 (Post 5935218)
damn, that really sucks! I am really proud that the Camaro has been made in Oshawa for the run of the 5th gen, and was just talking to my friend the other day about going to the plant to se my 6th gen made when they are released and mine was ordered. This is probably going to destroy oshawa, as it looks like the Camaro is the leading car made here, and by the looks of the lots when theya re full, they are probably 70% camaros at any given time. damn, this is a nut shot to oshawa! :(

Oshawa will be fine. :thumbsup: They build far more other cars than Camaros...and are apparently, destined to get some more.

They're not done, yet...and I'm certainly not saying goodbye so soon - they're doing GREAT! :)


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