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Bhobbs 04-23-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28 (Post 6332639)
Correction "we the people" are only able to buy what the manufactures give us so don't blame us blame them.

So what you are saying is, if it wasn't for CAFE and other government regulations regarding emissions, GM would still be building the LT1 with cylinder deactivation instead of building an engine that produces more power and torque while getting less MPG?

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183 (Post 6453027)
Good question. Not sure. My question to you is, what'll they use for a Z/28 engine in the 6th gen if produced? Which I'm 95% sure they'll produce it. I don't think the LS7 will be produced in a 6th gen. So give me the list of gen V engines they're bringing to the table.

I'm predicting the 6th gen Z/28 will end up with the same engine the C7Z06 ends up with or some variation of it. That's all my speculation of course and GM could end up building a less extreme Z28 to please more people instead of the Z/28 like they did for the 5th gen.

KarFan 04-26-2013 03:18 AM

5th Gen Z/28 is likely the last production car the 7L LS7 will power.

Gen V performance V8's will likely have as many variants as the current Gen IV's lineup.

Wizard1183 04-26-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6461759)
So what you are saying is, if it wasn't for CAFE and other government regulations regarding emissions, GM would still be building the LT1 with cylinder deactivation instead of building an engine that produces more power and torque while getting less MPG?



I'm predicting the 6th gen Z/28 will end up with the same engine the C7Z06 ends up with or some variation of it. That's all my speculation of course and GM could end up building a less extreme Z28 to please more people instead of the Z/28 like they did for the 5th gen.

this! They're going to pump Z/28s out like they're giving them away since the 5th gen will do so well at the track. Unfortunately the 6th gen Z won't hold a candle to this one but it may be a pretty decent track car. Who knows?

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Originally Posted by KarFan (Post 6471357)
5th Gen Z/28 is likely the last production car the 7L LS7 will power.

That's right! No more LS7s in production. If the LT1 is going to be Chevys bread & butter? Forget all the engines that come in to play after it as I don't believe any will bring more than 450HP to the camaro. It's 2nd gen all over again! CAFE standards coming harder and muscle cars are dying. ;)

Gen V performance V8's will likely have as many variants as the current Gen IV's lineup.


Bhobbs 04-26-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183 (Post 6471809)
this! They're going to pump Z/28s out like they're giving them away since the 5th gen will do so well at the track. Unfortunately the 6th gen Z won't hold a candle to this one but it may be a pretty decent track car. Who knows?

I don't see them pumping Z/28s out but I bet they build a decent number.


Like I said earlier, the LT1 is the base engine so if makes the most HP, the LT series will be a disappointment. I see it being like the LS where the later engines were more powerful.

Wizard1183 04-26-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6473790)
I don't see them pumping Z/28s out but I bet they build a decent number.


Like I said earlier, the LT1 is the base engine so if makes the most HP, the LT series will be a disappointment. I see it being like the LS where the later engines were more powerful.

Here's the thing. We only know of the LT1 as the largest gen V engine. We know it produces 450HP. If this is the case I don't see a variety of engines made. Maybe a 5.3L SS and LT1 powered Z? Or LT1 in every v8 camaro. The power output of engines will begin to go down. Not up. May be standard as the 6th gen with 450hp throughout the series, but eventually they will either discontinue the camaro or make them like 80s models with much less HP. I see the first option coming quickly as GM will not repeat what took place there.

SEVEN-OH JOE 04-26-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KarFan (Post 6471357)
5th Gen Z/28 is likely the last production car the 7L LS7 will power.

Gen V performance V8's will likely have as many variants as the current Gen IV's lineup.

Remind me to buy you a tasty beverage right around Woodward Dream Cruise time. :happy0180: http://detroit.cityvoter.com/duggan-...-pub/biz/17089

LT1, LT4, and maybe something called "LT.85".

LS7 will make "at least 500" hp in the Gen-5 Z/28; LS3 makes 426 in the current SS. Differential of the SS to Z/28 is .85 (or 85%) hp rating: 426/500 = .85.

LT1 in the Gen-6 Z/28 would make "at least 450 hp", as per C7 Vette; LT.85 could be either: 5.3L vs. 6.2L (5.3/6.2 = .85) OR "at least 385 hp" as a 5.3L sport-tuned SS engine (385/450 = .85).

For sure and certain, Reuss and the Team will see to it that the Z/28 continues into Gen-6 as THE top-performing n/a Camaro. And a 5.3L 385 (or greater) hp SS, wearing a tailored suit styled to 3500 lb., would have the same p2w rating as the current SS: 9.06 lb/hp. Better mpgs, too, with the coming 8-speed Automatic or 7-speed Manual, along with the other mpg-assisting technologies aboard.

A 5.3 SS could afford some price stability, too.

Win-win-win.

LOWDOWN, I'm with you on this one, especially is the "bargain" C7 with the 5.3 materializes.

Wizard1183 04-27-2013 10:21 AM

Well seven o joe, it looks like LT1 for 6th gen Z/28 is spot on. It has the same torque value up to 4k rpms as an LS7. If that's the case, then 5.3L will prolly be an SS. But as you said possibly more engines with the LT4 and such so we'll see...

Bhobbs 04-28-2013 02:05 AM

I still say the SS will get the LT1, Z/28 will get some variant of the Z06 engine and the ZL1 will get some variant of the ZR1 engine.


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