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shrinkdoc 10-14-2012 01:04 AM

Rumor on 6th Gen Camaro: twin turbo V6
 
Its pretty much a fact that the next gen camaro will be based on the new caddy ATS platform, but rumors are he 3.6 DFI v6 will be replaced with a twin turbo 3.0 V6.:drinking:

rberns 10-14-2012 01:06 AM

I'll believe it when GM reveals the next gen camaro. Till then, anything I hear about the next gen I take with a grain of salt.

v6 10-14-2012 01:49 AM

not gonna happen

buckeyemike 10-14-2012 03:08 AM

They also said the gas will be unicorn blood only, the wheels can fold in making it a boat, they're also working on the ZL1 being able to fly, and the base V6 will be replaced with three gerbils on steroids chasing each other in the engine bay.

AdamZ 10-14-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike (Post 5691679)
They also said the gas will be unicorn blood only, the wheels can fold in making it a boat, they're also working on the ZL1 being able to fly, and the base V6 will be replaced with three gerbils on steroids chasing each other in the engine bay.

They can't do that. These guys already have it patented. They just use 8 of them rather than 3. Then 6 in the v6's.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....ng-pricing.jpg

sspolo 10-14-2012 03:32 AM

Turbo would be nice, but I doubt it.

suplex 10-14-2012 06:59 AM

I definitely believe it will be based on the Caddy ATS platform. As it is now the LS and LT Camaros have a Cadillac CTS engine in them, and the ZL1 has the CTS-V engine.

You know how an Accura is a fancy Honda, and a Lexus is a fancy Toyota? Well I have always believed that a Cadillac is a fancy Chevrolet, so I don't doubt part of what shrinkdoc said at all. I also agree with rburns though, that we'll know when they release it.

Apex Motorsports 10-14-2012 07:26 AM

It has been confirmed that the 6th Gen Camaro will be on the Alpha platform but as to what engines will be used on what trim levels is up in that air. I would not be surprised to see a turbo 4 in the base models but it would have to be something more powerful than 2.0l T that is in the ATS or it will not be competitive with what Ford has in the pipeline.

SSGUNNER 10-14-2012 11:04 AM

:confused0068::troll::troll:

JoansDriver 10-14-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase (Post 5691870)
It has been confirmed that the 6th Gen Camaro will be on the Alpha platform but as to what engines will be used on what trim levels is up in that air. I would not be surprised to see a turbo 4 in the base models but it would have to be something more powerful than 2.0l T that is in the ATS or it will not be competitive with what Ford has in the pipeline.

Yup, I can see the 4 being turbo. Rather, I expect it to be.

TurboSS_ 10-14-2012 11:27 AM

i don't see why they wouldn't use the LNF in the Camaro, with maybe better internals and a more aggressive tune to push about 275bhp stock.

squat 10-14-2012 11:34 AM

The V6 might be a turbo, but I definitely believe that there will be a V8 this time around. It might be a smaller V8, but it'll be a V8...

Apex Motorsports 10-14-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by squat (Post 5692454)
The V6 might be a turbo, but I definitely believe that there will be a V8 this time around. It might be a smaller V8, but it'll be a V8...

There will be a V8 in the top trim levels (not referring it to as "SS" because rumor has it that might not be what it is called) like there always has been. The Alpha platform is designed to accommodate the new Gen V small block V8. Keep an eye on what is under the hood of the C7 Corvette to get an idea of what to expect.

LBV 10-14-2012 12:43 PM

The ATS-V will have a twin-turbo V6 so I can see it happening.

FINALLYSATISFIED 10-14-2012 12:45 PM

Only GM knows what they are going to do, as I'm sure its already been talked/planned...

TurboSS_ 10-14-2012 12:45 PM

THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME

KMPrenger 10-14-2012 12:52 PM

If the hearsay about Ford is true and they indeed release the base Mustang with a 310HP turbo 4 (and would probably get low to mid 30s MPG), then I think Chevy has two options:

1) If they only want to offer two engine choices for base or "SS" trim, well then their turbo is going to have to be 300+ HP as well. I don't logically see where a turbo 4 with this much power leaves room for a V6 unfortuently.

2) Offer 3 engine choices. A base 270 HP turbo 4 that gets as good or better MPGs as Fords Turbo4. Then offer a 330+HP V6 that should be able to get over 30 MPG (shouldn't be a problem in the smaller lighter car). Finally the "SS" engine option.

I really hope to see a V6 option but I have my doubts. I don't see them offering a turbo V6 either if a V8 is still an option. To me, the turbo V6 would likely be just as expensive, and if they used the 3.0 V6 it would probably be tuned to have less power than the V8.

brandonrr 10-14-2012 01:25 PM

i would rather see a turbo 3.6 than a turbo 3.0.

i think at this point it is pretty much confirmed that both the mustang and camaro will have turbo 4s in the next generation. while many see it as heresy, at least they will still make decent power, unlike the 4 cylinder mustang and camaro they made in the 80s.
the turbo 4 will be a fun, somewhat fast car, but the turbo 6, hopefully 3.6L, will be a beast if they do it right. i think the turbo 6 is still only a rumor though.

Apex Motorsports 10-14-2012 01:42 PM

I would be surprised to see a V6 in the Mustang or Camaro. The turbo 4s are more efficient and produce comparable power.

TurboSS_ 10-14-2012 01:58 PM

yeah. seems more likely they'll make a turbo 4 and a v8

Dr. Love 10-14-2012 03:24 PM

Does this mean that a v-8 won't be an option at all?

OHIOSS 10-14-2012 03:34 PM

I posted this about a year ago, the salesman at my GM dealer told me the new Camaro's likely wouldn't have a V8. Obviously that remains to be seen but everyone on the forum told me I was nuts. It has to do with the government mandated fuel economy. I guess we will see.


Russ

Apex Motorsports 10-14-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Love (Post 5693079)
Does this mean that a v-8 won't be an option at all?

There will be a V8. What we are saying is that the base model will in all likelihood be a turbo 4 and there will not be a V6.

Dr. Love 10-14-2012 04:07 PM

Makes sense. What do you know about the Corvette engine and design since the Camaro will be taking ques from that?

kylepo 10-14-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v6 (Post 5691606)
not gonna happen

Dont be so sure :cool:

Dr. Love 10-14-2012 04:32 PM

My brother is a die-hard Mustang guy and he is getting prepared to buy the next new Mustang that comes out. He laughed because he said it will probably be some kind of turbo 4 cylinder. He has only ever driven v-8s of anything. He laughed because he knew the irony of him driving a car with half the cylinders that he had ever driven - he knew it was going to happen....

It will happen to the Camaro, too. I bet people didn't think they would put 4 cylinders in muscle cars in the 80s, but they did.

Apex Motorsports 10-14-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Love (Post 5693193)
Makes sense. What do you know about the Corvette engine and design since the Camaro will be taking ques from that?

We know that the C7 is going to have one of the new Gen V V8s but GM has kept information on the new engines on lock down. We should know more October 24th at 8:30am.

scrming 10-14-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Love (Post 5693251)
My brother is a die-hard Mustang guy and he is getting prepared to buy the next new Mustang that comes out. He laughed because he said it will probably be some kind of turbo 4 cylinder. He has only ever driven v-8s of anything. He laughed because he knew the irony of him driving a car with half the cylinders that he had ever driven - he knew it was going to happen....

It will happen to the Camaro, too. I bet people didn't think they would put 4 cylinders in muscle cars in the 80s, but they did.

Here is the before and after of the 2.0 I4 EcoBoost from a Focus ST... Nice gains in the low end torque department! This is the same motor that should show up in the Mustang... and this is just a BASE SCT tune... on an otherwise 100% stock Focus ST.. Could be a fun little package for the Mustang

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...51417589_o.jpg

shrinkdoc 10-14-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by suplex (Post 5691823)
I definitely believe it will be based on the Caddy ATS platform. As it is now the LS and LT Camaros have a Cadillac CTS engine in them, and the ZL1 has the CTS-V engine.

You know how an Accura is a fancy Honda, and a Lexus is a fancy Toyota? Well I have always believed that a Cadillac is a fancy Chevrolet, so I don't doubt part of what shrinkdoc said at all. I also agree with rburns though, that we'll know when they release it.

Thank you Suplex...:emoticon5:at least somebody believes in me. :upset:

shrinkdoc 10-14-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OHIOSS (Post 5693109)
I posted this about a year ago, the salesman at my GM dealer told me the new Camaro's likely wouldn't have a V8. Obviously that remains to be seen but everyone on the forum told me I was nuts. It has to do with the government mandated fuel economy. I guess we will see.


Russ

No...they will still have a V8. The mandate only requires a percentage of cars to meet the requirement not all. The requirement will easliy be met with all the mom and cookie cutter models. The camaros and vettes will be fine.:wub:

TJ91 10-14-2012 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeyemike (Post 5691679)
They also said the gas will be unicorn blood only, the wheels can fold in making it a boat, they're also working on the ZL1 being able to fly, and the base V6 will be replaced with three gerbils on steroids chasing each other in the engine bay.

:sm0: cant stop laughing

tazz3 10-14-2012 10:41 PM

That will be cool if the 6 gen will have a twin turbo...

STuRTzz 10-14-2012 11:47 PM

Id rather have a gen 5 v6 than a gen 6 turbo 4 cylinder. I love the look of the gen5 and it set the standards high for me.

ardailsmith 10-15-2012 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrinkdoc (Post 5691516)
Its pretty much a fact that the next gen camaro will be based on the new caddy ATS platform, but rumors are he 3.6 DFI v6 will be replaced with a twin turbo 3.0 V6.:drinking:

I believe you have this backward the ATS is based on the Camaro. The ATS suspension and steering is from the ZL1, the V6 powerplant is the LFX with less HP. However the Turbo ATS is a 4. Since the Camaro version of the LFX produces more HP than any other LFX setup that GM has. I would find it hard to believe that they would drop to a smaller displacement V6 and then through TURBOS on it.

:popcorn:

NASTY99Z28 10-15-2012 03:53 AM

A tt-v6 would cost more then a v8 so cost wise it's not going to happen. Lets also remember that a fully dressed twin turbo will weigh more then a v8,be more complex to package and make weight distribution more front biased. The caddy can offer the tt-v6 because it cost more and they need to seperate the ats from the cts which is why the little guy will get the v6 and the big boy gets the v8. Turbo 4>V6....IMO

Apex Motorsports 10-15-2012 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardailsmith (Post 5694889)
I believe you have this backward the ATS is based on the Camaro. The ATS suspension and steering is from the ZL1, the V6 powerplant is the LFX with less HP. However the Turbo ATS is a 4. Since the Camaro version of the LFX produces more HP than any other LFX setup that GM has. I would find it hard to believe that they would drop to a smaller displacement V6 and then through TURBOS on it.

:popcorn:

Neither is "based" on the other. They are two totally different cars and they are currently on two different chassis. When the 6 Gen Camaro is released it will be on the Alpha platform that is currently under the ATS and they will share some similar hardware but that is about where it ends.

LikaRokBowTie 10-15-2012 10:25 AM

You have to admit these new 4 cyl.and v6 engines are getting impressive,we know what the problem is the weight of the cars,if we all wanted stripped down cars it might not be an issue of having a v8 but we know it takes muscle to move 3800 lbs of leather a/c and the other stuff piled on,but I can't see a Z-28 or ZL1 with anything less than V8 power or my truck as well.

Camrochris 07-18-2022 08:56 PM

Twin turbo 3.6 Camaro RS-V????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrinkdoc (Post 5691516)
Its pretty much a fact that the next gen camaro will be based on the new caddy ATS platform, but rumors are he 3.6 DFI v6 will be replaced with a twin turbo 3.0 V6.:drinking:

I mean it already is ATS Alpha based. The ATS-V was a twin turbo with 468 hp. In 2018. So thats easy peasy straight out of the parts bin power that boosted 3.6 guys like me would love to see. Butttt...not a 3.0. Too small. And you already know
Small block V8 guys might have a stroke if the SS badge is even associated with an engine that doesnt have 8 holes in the block. I think GM would be smart to do the ATS-V as the RS-V and the die hard small block folks are gonna need Corvette money. I dont know. I just know that th 3.6 screams like an F1 banshee with my supercharger but I would trade it for a twin turbo for 2024 in a minute....if it is offered with a manual.

LT1ornothing 07-18-2022 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Camrochris (Post 11202048)
I mean it already is ATS Alpha based. The ATS-V was a twin turbo with 468 hp. In 2018. So thats easy peasy straight out of the parts bin power that boosted 3.6 guys like me would love to see. Butttt...not a 3.0. Too small. And you already know
Small block V8 guys might have a stroke if the SS badge is even associated with an engine that doesnt have 8 holes in the block. I think GM would be smart to do the ATS-V as the RS-V and the die hard small block folks are gonna need Corvette money. I dont know. I just know that th 3.6 screams like an F1 banshee with my supercharger but I would trade it for a twin turbo for 2024 in a minute....if it is offered with a manual.

Almost 10 years too late on your reply there. Way to go on your nearly decade old resurrection champ. :sm0::clap2:

armycop71 07-19-2022 12:53 PM

Proves how far off and dead wrong rumors can be.....


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