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I dont know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but what this tells me is that the fifth gen has a few years left before the re-vamp. so with a three years remaining on what is generally a four year run, GM is likely to have something up their sleeve in the form of further development on the current platform. Maybe something in the form of the elusive Z/28!?
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If GM has the new Gen 5 V8 ready sooner than the planned release of the new Camaro, will they go ahead and start using it in the current lineup to get the benefits of the more efficient engine? I would hope so but don't know what their normal policy is.
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However, I don't think Cadillac would spend the money on an aluminum unibody, especially not for the base models, because one of Cadillac's critical features is offering the same features for less $$$ than competitors. That's why the CTS-V was made for 60k, verus the M5's $80k pricetag. As far as the size...I disagree. Considering the Mustang is purported to be shrinking, the Camaro's existing weight disadvantage vs that car, and the industry trend towards lighter, more fuel-efficient vehicles...I don't think the volume-selling Camaro can afford to be set on a similar, or even larger (CTS is growing) version of Alpha. It would be counter-intuitive to....everything. GM will need to develop a high-output V8 for the likes of the Corvette Z06 and ZR1...if the Camaro is based off of the smaller ATS Alpha architecture, it is conceivable that they could put a compact, high-output Gen V small block into the high-end versions. The cars don't need to be carbon-copies of each other...and in that light, we could see a much more robust drivetrain. :) |
Ode to the 4th gen (If I remember right):
-First to bring back 300 HP to the camaro and the muscle car in general -Brought the SS back to camaro -Brought the hurst shifter back to camaro - Introduced the torsen differential to the world - Brought the 6 speed to the muscle car -Dominated the mustang in PERFORMANCE every year it was built - I believe its performance beat the porsche boxter when introduced - Brought the camaro back to road racing (the SLP SS concept was designed specifically for road racing in the SCCA and it won the championship that year). Now I have a ZL1 ordered, but I also race a 4th gen in NASA road racing and very successfully, she is a beast at 3800 lbs but she wins the old fashioned way, fat engine + fat tires. The 4th gen may not be the prettiest but she is a muscle car and she is a camaro. There are a couple of items up there the 5th gen has yet to do... Respect your elders. |
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Car / 0-60 / top speed 1996 Boxter / 6.9 / 149 1996 Camaro V6 / 8.0 / 118 1996 Camaro V8 / 5.7 / 163 Sorry, your "race" up the on ramp was him "merging". |
Not by how high he was sending his tach (i could tell by sound). Either/or - probably bad driver. I think it comical that I got the better of a porsche boxster who was trying to get in front of me on an onramp - in my wife's "little v6" Camaro.
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P.S. It's called a Porsche Boxster and if you want me to be informed, how about this (and I don't know what year was next to me on the onramp btw.): 1996 Porsche Boxster 986 (edmunds.com specs) HP: 201 bhp @ 6000 rpm TQ: 181 ft-lbs. @ 4500 rpm 0-60: 7.2 seconds (http://www.autospecs.info) 1996 Chevrolet Camaro 3.8 (edmunds.com specs) HP: 200 hp @ 5200 rpm TQ: 225 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm 0-60: 7.3(http://www.zeroto60times.com/Chevrol...mph-Times.html) Quarter mile 15.5 (http://www.zeroto60times.com/Chevrol...mph-Times.html) Please "inform" yourself before stating that someone else is "misinformed". Edit: came here to share a funny story, expecting to be harassed by someone with a v8 and a head up his ass. left satisfied....Done with this little ditty. |
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I always felt like spray was cheating. |
If they can make it weigh 3400 like the new ATS it will be a beast!
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post4277655 |
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I started a thread a little while back on why the next Camaro should ride on this platform, and now I feel even stronger about it. 3,400 lbs, and it WILL support a DI V8. Of course the V8 and beefier components will add to the weight, but wouldn't figure over 3,600 for sure. |
I know it's a lot of what ifs, but is it too far fetched that the v-6 camaro could weigh less than the v-6 ATS?
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100 lbs? :yawn:
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I don't even think weight will be a issue for none of these cars from a casual view. People just want a a kick ass looking car with some power and fuel economy (v6) or just raw in your face power with decent gas mileage (v8). The camaro will continue to still outsell the competition as long as it reminds true to its affordability
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Very interested in what it may look like
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But just imagine if the next Camaro V6 does indeed end up weighing even less than the V6 ATS....you'd be looking at a 3,3xx lb Camaro V6. That would be friggin amazing. You'd be looking at a car that can run mid 13 quarters...or at least easy upper 13s and low to mid 5 second 0 - 60 sprints. Bolt ons would put it damn close to today's SS.....all for mid to upper 20K. :drinking: Now just imagine the SS weighing in at 3,500 to 3,600 lbs. |
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