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ParisTNDude 03-15-2012 09:46 PM

Curious
 
Was it strange that he said something like: "He didn't mention it, but the 2015 Mustang has the potential to surpass the Camaro"? Didn't Mustang always have the potential to surpass the Camaro? Does he know something about the 2015 Mustang that would make it surpass the Camaro? GM needs to make sure that doesn't happen if at all possible.

Xello 03-15-2012 09:47 PM

My first Camaro was a 2nd Gen and I loved it. However, I think we should let the 70's stay in the 70's. I would not want to see a 2016 model looking like a 45 year old car. Retro was cool for the 5th Gen and it's release was timed perfectly to take advantage of current retro fads. But how long will retro styling continue to be in vogue? I say lets look forward for the 6th Gen. Give us something new and exciting.

CAM MAN 03-15-2012 10:07 PM

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Well I think I will have start making more room I got 3 years.

Rock-It Man 03-15-2012 11:36 PM

Basing it on the 2nd gen is a great idea.

Make it lower, lighter, and generally smaller than the 1st gen, but keep the 6.2 litre engine.

The 2nd gen with split bumper and RS fog lights was a beautiful car!

cam fan 03-15-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Taintedveins (Post 4647057)
I really hope if they take any styling cues from the second gen that they are minimal. I could see that horrible render coming to fruition :vomit: it would be a horrid sight, IMO they should take development even more serious then this generation! Time and effort are a good start to success

they haaaaave to make it just like this


http://www.sf5thgen.com/wp-content/u...c36a1e7b5a.jpg














http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...IaiiWsry6E50OA

SSCamaroZ28 03-16-2012 02:44 AM

Goodness no. LOL.

OPP 03-16-2012 05:30 AM

[QUOTE=cam fan;4653411]they haaaaave to make it just like this


http://www.sf5thgen.com/wp-content/u...c36a1e7b5a.jpg

I think that would be a flop for GM. I really don't see what people saw in the second generation. The Mustang is going to be a modern sports car next. GM can't make something that looks like a frog as a competition.

HIOFECR 03-16-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cam fan (Post 4653411)
they haaaaave to make it just like this


I think that would be a flop for GM. I really don't see what people saw in the second generation. The Mustang is going to be a modern sports car next. GM can't make something that looks like a frog as a competition.

:word:

1camaro70 03-16-2012 07:55 AM

As someone whose first car was a 1970, I liked them, then in 1974 it started to go downhill, they attached a railroad tie to the front for a bumper.
Why not just do as Smokey Yunick did in nascar - a 7/8th scale car, smaller size, keep room for V8, give us better visibility, lighter weight, my 1970 was closer to 3100 lbs, just like the Corvette.

htron50 03-16-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cam fan (Post 4653411)
they haaaaave to make it just like this


http://www.sf5thgen.com/wp-content/u...c36a1e7b5a.jpg

I think that would be a flop for GM. I really don't see what people saw in the second generation. The Mustang is going to be a modern sports car next. GM can't make something that looks like a frog as a competition.

I tend to agree with you. It has to have some retro cues, but "needs to lead" in design.... without reaching for rice paddies. :thumbsup:

The new ATS is a little bit "sharp lines".... not too many "soft radius".... it would be nice to see a modern look with a nostalgic reach back.

joe h 03-16-2012 09:19 AM

More hp, lighter weight, and a naturally aspirated v8, otherwise don't waste your time building it. Also a higher redline so you can hit 200mph in 4th gear, I was promised a race car back in 06, all I got was an overweight base model corvette.

DarkneSS 03-16-2012 09:57 AM

Please stop with the resign ideas. Move the current styling forward towards a smaller more futuristic look. Let the older models rest in peace. Trying to use those as a benchmark is a recipe for disaster. The 5th gens styling did borrow from the 60s cars but I think it was a bit lucky, it could have easily looked terrible.

You have a design here that is widely considered to be an amazing looking car, dont ruin it by trying to go backwards.

Bonanza7 03-16-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by swizlstik (Post 4649206)
I trust GM.

:chevy::chevy::chevy:

Maybe, but if history is any example....they will screw it up. Just can't help themselves

PQ 03-16-2012 10:34 AM

I'd try something more modern with the new one. At least take the 5th Gen forward and build off the 5th Gen. To continue with the throwback might not be a great idea.

garcmol 03-16-2012 10:42 AM

Can I just have this car??? Pretty please?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d083ba41-2176-2a10.jpg

Cam#7 03-16-2012 10:43 AM

One thing you notice when you go through this Camaro thread is all the mods that everyone has done to their Gen5s. We definitely like to make them our own cars.

Another reason to have a new design with every generation. Just think of the extra money made in mods that don't interchange with other generations.

rdaggett 03-16-2012 11:02 AM

My thoughts are little smaller, up the hp a little bit, better suspension and call it a day ... basically power to weight ratio and handling ...

Mick 03-16-2012 12:07 PM

The body design on the 5th gens are awesome! Build and improve off this style with reduced weight, and improvements to mechanical elements, as necessary, but be faithful to this look, please.

PQ 03-16-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 4655444)
The body design on the 5th gens are awesome! Build and improve off this style with reduced weight, and improvements to mechanical elements, as necessary, but be faithful to this look, please.

:word:

This car but 400 pounds lighter and a tad smaller and I'd trade mine in for one. And I wouldn't trade mine in for much. Not even a ZL1.

JWoj3540 03-16-2012 01:30 PM

"Displacement, number of cylinders, all of these things you need to think about."

This means bye bye V8…get em while you can boys and girls

PQ 03-16-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JWoj3540 (Post 4655822)
"Displacement, number of cylinders, all of these things you need to think about."

This means bye bye V8…get em while you can boys and girls

:bs:

By then we will have opened up some drilling. :D

AZCamaroFan 03-16-2012 02:03 PM

still think what i've always thought. they're not going to recreate the 2nd gen. Probably take the basic shape of the 5th gen and play around with it. maybe the quad headlight, open mouth grille of the 2nd and 3rd gens. maybe the taillight style from 74-92. overall it will be a new car though.

LAWMAN 03-16-2012 02:14 PM

maybe it needs to be a smaller version of the vette...?not exactly like it but styling cue's from it,

Wizard1183 03-16-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cam fan (Post 4653411)

For $5000, I bet those rims are different!:laughabove:

yzrider58 03-16-2012 03:05 PM

[QUOTE=OPP;4653872]
Quote:

Originally Posted by cam fan (Post 4653411)
they haaaaave to make it just like this


http://www.sf5thgen.com/wp-content/u...c36a1e7b5a.jpg

I think that would be a flop for GM. I really don't see what people saw in the second generation. The Mustang is going to be a modern sports car next. GM can't make something that looks like a frog as a competition.

Whats with all the 2nd gen bashing?? :thumbdown:

The 2nd gen design looks great and its still a Camaro so please stop the madness!!! :mad0260:


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